Does involuntary termination qualify for unemployment Washington ESD benefits?
Got let go from my job last Friday due to company restructuring - wasn't my fault, they just eliminated my position along with 8 others. This is my first time dealing with unemployment so I'm confused about whether this counts as involuntary termination for Washington ESD benefits. I know they ask about the reason for job separation when you file, but I want to make sure I understand what qualifies before I submit my claim. Has anyone been through this type of situation? What exactly does Washington ESD consider involuntary termination?
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Adrian Hughes
Yes, layoffs and position eliminations definitely qualify as involuntary termination for Washington ESD benefits. When you file your claim, you'll select 'lack of work' or 'layoff' as your separation reason. Make sure you have documentation from your employer about the restructuring if possible.
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Lara Woods
•Thank you! Should I wait to get some kind of official letter from HR before filing, or can I go ahead and start the process now?
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Adrian Hughes
•Don't wait - file as soon as possible since there's a waiting week. You can always provide additional documentation later if Washington ESD requests it during adjudication.
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Molly Chambers
Had the same thing happen to me in 2023. Company downsizing counts as involuntary for sure. Just make sure when you file your weekly claims you're honest about the circumstances. Washington ESD will verify with your employer anyway.
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Lara Woods
•How long did it take for your claim to get approved? I'm worried about how long I'll be waiting for benefits to start.
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Molly Chambers
•Mine took about 3 weeks because they had to verify the layoff details with my employer. Some claims go faster if there's no issues to investigate.
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Ian Armstrong
•If you're having trouble reaching Washington ESD to check on claim status, there's actually a service called Claimyr that helps people get through to agents. Check out claimyr.com - they have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works.
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Eli Butler
Involuntary termination covers layoffs, position eliminations, business closures, and basically any time you lose your job through no fault of your own. What matters is that you didn't quit and you weren't fired for misconduct. Your situation sounds like a clear case for benefits.
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Marcus Patterson
•What about if the company offered voluntary severance packages first? Does that change anything if you didn't take it?
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Eli Butler
•No, if you didn't take voluntary severance and got laid off anyway, it's still involuntary termination. The key is you didn't choose to leave.
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Lydia Bailey
ugh this whole system is so confusing!! I got fired from my last job for 'performance issues' and they denied my claim. Now I'm scared to even try again with my new situation. How do they decide what counts as misconduct vs just not being good at the job?
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Adrian Hughes
•Performance issues usually don't count as misconduct unless you were willfully negligent. If you genuinely tried to do your job but just couldn't meet expectations, that's different from misconduct like theft or insubordination.
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Lydia Bailey
•Wish I had known that before. Maybe I should have appealed but it's too late now. This new job loss is definitely not my fault though - whole department got cut.
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Mateo Warren
Been through this twice in the last 5 years unfortunately. Both times were company downsizing and both times I qualified immediately. Washington ESD is pretty straightforward about involuntary separations - if you didn't cause it, you usually qualify. Just be prepared for them to contact your employer to verify the details.
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Lara Woods
•Did Washington ESD ever ask you for additional documentation beyond what you provided in the initial claim?
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Mateo Warren
•First time no, second time they wanted a copy of the layoff notice I received. Really depends on how clear-cut your situation is.
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Ian Armstrong
The main categories Washington ESD considers involuntary are: layoffs, lack of work, business closure, job elimination, reduction in force, and some health-related separations. Your situation definitely fits. Make sure when you file online that you select the most accurate reason code.
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Sofia Price
•What if the company calls it 'restructuring' but doesn't use the word layoff? Will that cause problems?
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Ian Armstrong
•No, the specific terminology doesn't matter as much as the actual circumstances. Position elimination due to restructuring is still involuntary separation.
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Marcus Patterson
Make sure you file within the first week after your last day of work. I made the mistake of waiting too long thinking I needed to have everything perfect, but you lose that waiting week if you delay filing.
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Lara Woods
•Good point! I was planning to wait until I got my final paycheck but I'll file this weekend instead.
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Adrian Hughes
•Smart move. You can always update information later, but you can't get back that waiting week if you file late.
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Molly Chambers
One thing to watch out for - if your company offers you a different position before the layoff takes effect, refusing it might complicate your claim. But if the new position is significantly different in pay or duties, you might still qualify.
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Lara Woods
•They didn't offer me anything else, just said my position was being eliminated effective immediately. Sounds like I should be fine then.
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Eli Butler
•Right, if there was no alternative offered and you were just cut loose, that's textbook involuntary termination.
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Lydia Bailey
I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks about my old claim and can never get through. The phone system is absolutely horrible. Has anyone found a way to actually talk to a human being there?
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Ian Armstrong
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Lydia Bailey
•Never heard of that before. How does it work exactly? Do they just keep calling for you or something?
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Ian Armstrong
•They handle the calling process and connect you when an agent is available. Way better than sitting on hold forever or getting hung up on. The demo video explains it better than I can.
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Sofia Price
Don't overthink it - if you got laid off through no fault of your own, you qualify. Period. The Washington ESD online application will walk you through the separation reason questions and it's pretty clear what counts as involuntary.
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Lara Woods
•Thanks for the reassurance! I guess I'm just nervous because I've never had to file for unemployment before.
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Sofia Price
•Totally normal to be nervous about something new. Just be honest on your application and you'll be fine. Your situation is exactly what unemployment benefits are for.
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Marcus Patterson
Also remember that even if there are questions about your separation, you have appeal rights if they initially deny your claim. But honestly, layoffs due to company restructuring are usually approved without any issues.
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Lara Woods
•Good to know there's an appeal process if needed. Hopefully I won't need it but it's reassuring to know it's there.
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Eli Butler
The key documentation you want to keep is anything showing the layoff was due to business reasons, not your performance. Layoff notices, company-wide emails about restructuring, that kind of thing. It helps if there are questions later.
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Lara Woods
•I have the email they sent to all affected employees explaining the restructuring. That should be good documentation.
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Eli Butler
•Perfect! That kind of company-wide communication clearly shows it wasn't about individual performance.
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Mateo Warren
Don't forget you'll need to do job search activities once you start receiving benefits. Washington ESD requires 3 job search activities per week, so start keeping track from the beginning.
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Lara Woods
•What counts as job search activities? Is it just applying for jobs or are there other things?
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Mateo Warren
•Job applications, networking events, career fairs, informational interviews, updating LinkedIn - lots of different activities count. They have a list on the WorkSourceWA site.
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Molly Chambers
One more tip - take screenshots of your online application before submitting it. Sometimes there are technical glitches and having a record of what you submitted can be helpful if there are questions later.
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Lara Woods
•Smart idea! I'll definitely do that when I file this weekend.
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Adrian Hughes
Bottom line for OP: layoffs and position eliminations are involuntary terminations that qualify for Washington ESD benefits. File as soon as possible, be honest about the circumstances, keep your documentation, and don't stress too much about it. Your situation sounds very straightforward.
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Lara Woods
•Thank you everyone for all the helpful advice! Feeling much more confident about filing now. Really appreciate this community.
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Sofia Price
•Good luck with your claim! Hope you find a new job soon but at least unemployment will help bridge the gap.
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Ian Armstrong
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Marcus Patterson
•How much does something like that cost? Seems like it might be worth it if it actually works.
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Ian Armstrong
•I think it's reasonable considering how much time and frustration it saves. Check their website for current pricing - claimyr.com has all the details.
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Lydia Bailey
This thread has been super helpful. I'm going to look into appealing my old denied claim and also try that Claimyr thing to actually talk to someone about it. Thanks everyone!
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Adrian Hughes
•Good luck with your appeal! Remember there are time limits for appeals so don't wait too long to get that process started.
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Lara Woods
UPDATE: Filed my claim this morning and it went through without any issues. Selected 'lack of work' as my separation reason and uploaded that company email about the restructuring. Now just waiting for the adjudication process. Thanks again everyone for the encouragement!
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Molly Chambers
•Great job getting it filed quickly! Fingers crossed your claim gets approved without any delays.
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Eli Butler
•Sounds like you did everything right. With clear documentation like that company email, your claim should go smoothly.
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Mateo Warren
•Awesome! Remember to file your weekly claims on time even while you're waiting for the initial decision. Don't want to miss any weeks.
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Sofia Price
This is exactly the kind of straightforward involuntary termination case that Washington ESD handles all the time. Company restructuring, position elimination, clear documentation - you should be good to go. Hope it helps others in similar situations too.
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Lara Woods
•Definitely! Hope this thread helps other people who are unsure about whether their situation qualifies. It's nice to know the system actually works for legitimate cases.
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