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How to get laid off and collect unemployment - Washington ESD eligibility requirements?

I'm in a really tough financial spot and wondering what the actual requirements are for Washington ESD unemployment benefits if you get laid off. My company has been doing rounds of layoffs and I'm hoping to understand the process better. Do you have to be completely involuntarily terminated to qualify? What about if you take a voluntary layoff package - does that still count for UI benefits? I've heard conflicting info about whether Washington ESD considers voluntary separations eligible. Also how long does the whole process take once you file? Really need to understand my options here.

You need to be laid off involuntarily to qualify for Washington ESD benefits. Voluntary resignation typically disqualifies you unless it's for good cause like unsafe working conditions or major changes to your job. If your company offers voluntary layoffs, those usually still count as involuntary separations for UI purposes since the company initiated it.

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That's helpful, thanks. So if they offer voluntary layoffs with severance, I'd still be eligible?

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Yes, as long as the layoff was initiated by the employer. The severance might affect when you can start collecting but shouldn't disqualify you entirely.

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been through this twice in the last 5 years. washington esd takes forever to process claims now. filed in november and didnt get first payment until january. the whole system is backed up

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Oh no, that's way longer than I can afford to wait. Did you have any issues with the application?

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nah application was fine, just sits in adjudication forever. couldnt get through to anyone on the phone either

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BE VERY CAREFUL about trying to get yourself laid off. Washington ESD investigates claims and if they find out you manipulated the situation to get fired, they'll deny your benefits and you could face fraud charges. They look at your work performance, attendance, and any communications leading up to termination.

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I wasn't planning to do anything shady, just wondering about legitimate layoff scenarios at my company.

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Good to hear. Just wanted to make sure you knew the risks since some people think they can game the system.

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Yeah my friend got caught doing this exact thing and had to pay back like $8000 in benefits plus penalties

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honestly the whole unemployment system is set up to screw working people. they make it as hard as possible to get benefits you already paid for through taxes

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Tell me about it. I've been paying into the system for 15 years and when I finally needed it, took months to get approved.

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The system has issues but it does help millions of people. The key is understanding the rules and filing correctly from the start.

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You also need to meet the work history requirements - they look at your wages from the last 18 months. Need to have earned at least $3,850 in your base year and worked in at least two quarters. Plus you have to be able and available for work and actively searching.

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I've been at my current job for 3 years full time so I should meet those requirements.

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Then you should be fine on the work history part. Just make sure you file within a few days of your last day of work.

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whatever you do dont quit thinking you can claim unemployment. has to be involuntary termination or you're screwed. learned this the hard way

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Yeah I definitely won't quit voluntarily. Waiting to see if layoffs happen at my company.

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How much does something like that cost though? If you're unemployed money is already tight.

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The peace of mind of actually reaching someone at Washington ESD when you need help is worth it, especially if your benefits are delayed.

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I went through a voluntary layoff situation last year. Company offered packages and I took one. Washington ESD approved my claim no problem because it was still considered an employer-initiated separation even though I volunteered for it.

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That's exactly the situation I might be in. How long did your claim take to get approved?

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About 3 weeks from filing to first payment. Had to do a phone interview to confirm the circumstances but it went smoothly.

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Same here - voluntary layoff with severance and got approved. Key is that the employer initiated the layoff program.

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Don't forget you'll have to do job searches every week and report them. Washington ESD requires 3 job search activities per week and they do audit these sometimes.

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Good point. I've heard they've gotten stricter about the job search requirements recently.

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Yeah they check WorkSourceWA activity and sometimes request documentation of your searches.

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The waiting period is the worst part. Even if everything goes perfectly you're looking at 2-4 weeks minimum before seeing any money. Make sure you have some savings to bridge that gap.

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That's my biggest worry. I don't have much saved up right now.

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Check if your area has any emergency assistance programs while you wait for UI to kick in.

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Also worth mentioning - if you get severance pay, Washington ESD might delay your benefits until that period ends. They consider it wages in lieu of notice.

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So I'd have to wait until the severance period ends before getting unemployment?

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Depends on how the company structures it. Lump sum is different from continued salary payments. Best to ask Washington ESD directly when you file.

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My advice is start preparing now - gather your employment docs, create your WorkSourceWA account, and have all your info ready to file immediately if you do get laid off. The sooner you file, the sooner you start getting paid.

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Good thinking. I'll start getting all that paperwork together just in case.

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Smart move. Also write down all your employer contacts and dates - you'll need that info for the application.

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I'll keep that in mind if I need to reach them. Sounds like their phone system is pretty backed up.

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One last thing - make sure you understand the difference between being laid off vs being fired for cause. Layoffs are due to business reasons (budget cuts, restructuring, etc.) and qualify for UI. Getting fired for misconduct usually disqualifies you.

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Yeah the layoffs at my company are definitely business related, not performance issues.

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