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How to figure unemployment benefit amount in Washington ESD system?

I'm trying to understand how Washington ESD calculates my weekly unemployment benefit amount. I worked part-time at two different jobs last year - one retail job making $14/hour and another cleaning office buildings for $16/hour. My hours varied a lot between both jobs. When I look at my SecureAccess Washington account, it shows my monetary determination but I can't figure out how they came up with the weekly benefit amount of $387. Does anyone know the formula they use? I want to make sure this is correct before I start filing my weekly claims.

Washington ESD uses your highest earning quarter from your base period to calculate benefits. They take that quarter's earnings, divide by 13, then multiply by 0.0385 to get your weekly benefit amount. Your base period is usually the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you filed.

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That helps explain it! So they're not looking at my hourly wage at all, just my actual earnings from the best quarter?

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Exactly right. It's all based on reported wages, not hourly rates. Your employers report your earnings quarterly to Washington ESD.

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i had the same confusion when i first filed. the monetary determination letter should break down which quarters they used and show the math. if you dont have that letter you can request it through your eServices account

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I do have the letter but the numbers still seem high compared to what I thought I made. Maybe I'm underestimating my quarterly earnings.

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Check your wage history in the system - sometimes people forget about overtime or bonuses that got included in their quarterly totals.

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Never heard of that service before. Is it legit or just another scam?

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It's legitimate - they just help you get through to ESD agents when the phone lines are swamped. Saved me literally hours of calling and getting disconnected.

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Might have to try that if I can't figure this out. The ESD phone system is absolutely terrible.

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The maximum weekly benefit amount in Washington is currently $999 per week, so your $387 seems reasonable depending on your earnings history. The minimum is $295. Also remember that if you work part-time while collecting, they'll reduce your benefits dollar-for-dollar after you earn more than your weekly benefit amount.

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Good to know about the part-time work rules. I might pick up some gig work while I'm looking for full-time employment.

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Just make sure you report ALL earnings on your weekly claims, even small amounts. ESD will find out eventually and you don't want an overpayment notice.

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ugh the whole calculation system is so confusing!! why cant they just make it simple like other states do it

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Every state has different formulas. Washington's is actually pretty straightforward once you understand the base period concept.

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maybe for you but ive been trying to figure this out for weeks and still dont get it

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I work for an HR company and deal with unemployment claims regularly. One thing people often miss is that your base period might not include your most recent work if you filed right after losing your job. There's an alternate base period option if your regular base period doesn't qualify you or gives you a lower benefit amount.

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How do I know if I should use the alternate base period? My most recent quarter was actually my highest earning.

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You'd need to contact ESD to request the alternate base period calculation. They'll determine if it results in a higher benefit amount for you.

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This is exactly the kind of question where Claimyr would be helpful - getting through to ask about alternate base periods can take forever on your own.

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Check if you have any unreported wages too. Sometimes employers mess up their quarterly reports and your benefits could be higher than calculated. I had this happen and got a nice retroactive adjustment.

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How would I know if wages were unreported? Would that show up in my wage history?

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Compare your pay stubs to what shows in your ESD wage history. If there are discrepancies, you can request a wage investigation.

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The formula is: (Highest quarter wages ÷ 13) × 0.0385 = Weekly benefit amount. But there are also minimum wage requirements and other factors. Your $387 suggests your highest quarter was around $130,000 which seems high for part-time work at those hourly rates.

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Wait, that math doesn't seem right. $130,000 in a quarter for part-time work? That would be like $10,000 per month!

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You're right, I made an error. Let me recalculate: $387 ÷ 0.0385 = $10,052, then × 13 = $130,676 annually. That's definitely too high for your situation.

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The math is wrong. It should be: $387 ÷ 0.0385 = $10,052 for the quarterly amount, not annual. So their highest quarter was about $10,052 which is reasonable.

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double check your social security earnings record too sometimes there are discrepancies between what ssa has and what esd has on file

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Good idea. I can check that online at the SSA website right?

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yep create an account at ssa.gov and you can see all your earnings history

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I'm going through the exact same thing trying to verify my benefit calculation. The Washington ESD website has a benefit calculator tool but it doesn't seem to work properly. Has anyone else had issues with their online calculator?

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The online calculator is pretty basic and doesn't account for all the variables. Better to look at your actual monetary determination.

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That's what I figured. The determination letter is more accurate than their generic calculator.

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Pro tip: Keep all your pay stubs and W-2s when you file for unemployment. Makes it much easier to verify the calculations and catch any errors in your wage history.

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I wish I had kept better records. I have some pay stubs but not all of them from last year.

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You can usually request copies from your former employers if you need them for verification purposes.

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washington esd system is so broken, half the time the calculations are wrong and you spend months trying to get them fixed. i know three people who had to appeal their monetary determinations

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While there can be errors, most monetary determinations are calculated correctly. The appeals process exists for legitimate disputes.

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maybe but when you cant even get someone on the phone to explain the calculation theres definitely a problem

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Just went through this myself last month. Turned out my benefit amount was correct but I was confused because I didn't realize they use gross wages, not take-home pay, for the calculation. Made a big difference in understanding the numbers.

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Oh that's a good point! I was thinking about my take-home pay, not gross. That probably explains why the amount seemed higher than expected.

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Exactly. Gross wages include all your pre-tax deductions, so the quarterly amounts are higher than what you actually took home.

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If you're still having trouble getting answers, I used a service called Claimyr that helped me reach an actual ESD representative to go over my benefit calculation. Way better than spending all day redialing the main number.

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A few people have mentioned Claimyr now. Might be worth trying if I can't figure this out on my own.

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I was skeptical at first but it actually worked. Got through to someone at ESD in like 20 minutes instead of calling for hours.

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Make sure you understand the difference between your weekly benefit amount and your maximum benefit amount too. The weekly amount is what you get each week, but there's also a total maximum you can collect over the benefit year.

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Right, I think my maximum total is around $10,000 for the year. Is that calculated the same way?

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The maximum total is usually 26 times your weekly benefit amount, so 26 × $387 = $10,062 in your case.

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been collecting unemployment for 8 weeks now and still dont really understand how they calculated my amount lol but as long as the checks keep coming i guess it doesnt matter

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It's good to understand your benefit calculation in case there are any issues or changes to your claim status.

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true but honestly the whole system is too complicated for normal people to figure out

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Your $387 weekly amount sounds about right for someone who had decent part-time earnings. I had similar wages and got $341 per week. The key thing is making sure you file your weekly claims on time every week to keep getting paid.

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Good to hear from someone with a similar situation. When do you usually file your weekly claims?

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I file mine every Sunday morning. You can file starting Sunday for the previous week and have until Saturday to get it in.

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The calculation seems correct based on what you've described. Focus on filing your weekly claims correctly and doing your job search activities. Those are more important than understanding every detail of the benefit calculation.

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Thanks, you're probably right. I should focus on finding work instead of obsessing over the math.

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Definitely keep looking for work, but it's still good to understand your benefits in case any issues come up with your claim.

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One last thing to check - make sure your monetary determination included wages from both of your part-time jobs. Sometimes if employers don't report correctly, one of your jobs might be missing from the calculation.

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I can see both employers listed in my wage history, so I think they're both included. Thanks for all the help everyone!

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You're welcome! Feel free to ask if you run into any other issues with your unemployment claim.

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