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How is unemployment figured in Washington ESD - confused about benefit calculation

I'm trying to understand how Washington ESD calculates my weekly benefit amount. I worked part-time at two different jobs last year - one was retail for $14/hour about 25 hours a week, and the other was food service for $16/hour but only 15 hours a week. My claim got approved but I'm getting $287 per week and I have no idea how they came up with that number. I looked at my monetary determination but it's all confusing with quarters and base periods. Can someone explain how unemployment is figured out? I want to make sure they calculated it right.

Mei Liu

Washington ESD uses your highest earning quarter from your base period to calculate benefits. Your base period is the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you filed. They take your highest quarter earnings, divide by 13, then multiply by 0.0385 to get your weekly benefit amount. There's also a minimum and maximum - currently $295 minimum and $999 maximum per week in 2025.

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So they don't look at my total yearly earnings? Just one quarter? That seems weird.

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Mei Liu

Correct, just your highest earning quarter. It's designed to reflect your normal earning capacity during your best 3-month period.

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Your monetary determination should show all four quarters of your base period. Add up what you made in each quarter and see which one was highest. That's the number they used for your calculation.

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I'll have to dig that paperwork out again. I think I threw it away thinking it was just informational.

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You can also log into your Washington ESD account and view it there under 'Claim Information' if you need another copy.

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If you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD to verify your calculation, I had success using Claimyr (claimyr.com) to actually reach an agent. They have a service that gets you through the phone queues. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Really helped me when I had questions about my benefit calculation.

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Is that legit? I've been trying to call for weeks and can never get through.

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Yeah it's real. I was skeptical too but it actually worked. Way better than sitting on hold for hours.

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I used Claimyr too after seeing it mentioned here. Got through to an agent in like 20 minutes instead of the usual 3+ hour wait times.

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Wait I'm confused about the calculation too. If they use your highest quarter, what if you had a really good quarter but then lost hours or got laid off? Doesn't seem fair to base it on just 3 months.

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Mei Liu

That's actually the point - they want to calculate based on your normal full-time earning capacity, not a period when you were already struggling with reduced hours.

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But what if your highest quarter was from overtime or a bonus? That's not really 'normal' either.

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The whole Washington ESD system is backwards. They make it impossible to understand how they calculate anything. I've been trying to figure out my benefit amount for months and even the agents give different answers.

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Same here! One agent told me they use total earnings, another said highest quarter. So frustrating.

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Mei Liu

The calculation method hasn't changed - it's always been highest quarter divided by 13 then multiplied by 3.85%. Some agents might explain it differently but the formula is consistent.

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OK so I found my monetary determination. My highest quarter was $8,760 last spring when I was working both jobs. So $8,760 divided by 13 = $673.84, then times 0.0385 = $25.94? That can't be right because I'm getting $287.

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Mei Liu

You're using the wrong multiplier. It's 0.0385 of your quarterly wages, not your weekly amount. So $8,760 x 0.0385 = $337.26. But there might be other factors affecting your final amount.

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Ohhh that makes more sense! So where does the $287 come from then?

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Mei Liu

Could be a deduction for taxes, child support, or you might have some disqualifying income. Check your payment history for any adjustments.

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I had a similar issue where my benefit amount seemed wrong. Turns out I had some W-2 wages that didn't get reported correctly to Washington ESD. Had to submit additional documentation to get it fixed.

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How did you find out about the unreported wages? Did Washington ESD tell you?

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No, I had to compare my W-2s to what showed up on my monetary determination. One of my employers apparently didn't report my wages correctly.

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Also remember that if you work part-time while collecting benefits, they reduce your weekly amount dollar-for-dollar after the first $15 you earn. So if you're doing any gig work or part-time hours, that could explain the difference.

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I'm not working at all right now, so that's not it. But good to know for when I start looking for part-time work.

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Actually it's not dollar-for-dollar. They deduct 75% of earnings over $15 from your weekly benefit amount.

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You're right, thanks for the correction. It's 75% of gross earnings over $15, not 100%.

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The base period thing is confusing too. I filed in January 2025 so my base period would be January 2024 through December 2024? Or is it different quarters?

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Mei Liu

If you filed in January 2025, your base period would be October 2023 through September 2024. It's the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters.

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Why don't they use more recent earnings? Seems like old information.

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Mei Liu

It's because employers have time to report wages to the state. Using the most recent quarter could mean missing wage data that hasn't been reported yet.

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Does anyone know if the calculation is different for people who were self-employed or had 1099 income? I had a mix of W-2 and contractor work.

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Mei Liu

Self-employment income generally doesn't count toward your base period wages unless you paid into the unemployment system as a self-employed person, which is rare. Only W-2 wages from employers who pay unemployment taxes typically count.

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That explains why my benefit amount was lower than expected. Most of my income last year was 1099 contractor work.

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I'm still confused about the whole thing. Why can't Washington ESD just use your last year's total income divided by 52 weeks? Would be so much simpler.

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Mei Liu

Because that could penalize people who had periods of unemployment or reduced hours. Using the highest quarter captures your earning potential when you were fully employed.

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But what if someone's highest quarter was years ago and they've been underemployed since then? Seems unfair the other way too.

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For what it's worth, I tried calling Washington ESD about my benefit calculation and used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. Actually got through to an agent who walked me through the math step by step. Worth the cost if you're really stuck.

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I might have to try that. I'm still not getting how they arrived at my specific number.

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The agent I talked to said sometimes there are adjustments that don't show up clearly on the monetary determination. Could be worth a call.

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Just want to add that if you think your benefit amount is wrong, you can file an appeal. You have 30 days from when you received your monetary determination to dispute it.

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Good to know! I think I'll try calling first to understand the calculation better before I file an appeal.

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Smart approach. Sometimes it's just a matter of understanding how they did the math rather than an actual error.

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The whole system is designed to be confusing so people don't question their benefit amounts. I bet half the people getting unemployment don't even know if their calculation is correct.

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I never even looked at my monetary determination until I saw this post. Just assumed Washington ESD got it right.

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Mei Liu

It's actually worth checking, especially if you had multiple jobs or your work hours varied a lot during your base period.

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Thanks for starting this thread OP. I learned more about benefit calculations from reading these replies than from any of the Washington ESD websites or pamphlets.

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Same! I feel like I actually understand the process now instead of just accepting whatever number they gave me.

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This is why forums like this are so valuable. Real people explaining things in plain English instead of government bureaucracy speak.

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One thing to remember is that your benefit amount also determines how long you can collect. You get benefits for up to 26 weeks or until you've received your maximum benefit amount, whichever comes first.

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How do they calculate the maximum benefit amount? Is that also based on the highest quarter?

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Yes, your maximum benefit amount is typically 26 times your weekly benefit amount, but it can't exceed 30% of your total base period wages.

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I just realized I should probably double-check my own calculation now. I've been collecting for 8 weeks and never questioned whether the amount was right.

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Mei Liu

It's never too late to verify. If there was an error in your favor, Washington ESD might eventually catch it and create an overpayment. Better to catch it early.

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Yikes, didn't think about that. I'll pull out my paperwork this weekend.

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For anyone still confused, the Washington State Department of Employment Security has a benefit calculator on their website, but it's pretty basic. Might help give you a rough idea though.

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I tried that calculator but it didn't match my actual benefit amount. That's part of why I was so confused.

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The online calculator doesn't account for all the possible adjustments. It's more of a rough estimate tool.

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This has been really helpful! I had no idea the calculation was so specific. I always wondered why my benefit amount seemed random.

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Right? I wish they explained this stuff better when you first file your claim. Would save a lot of confusion.

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They probably figure most people won't question it. But like others said, it's worth understanding in case there's an error.

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One last tip - keep all your pay stubs and W-2s from your base period. If you ever need to dispute your benefit calculation, you'll need that documentation to prove your earnings.

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Good advice. I'm definitely going to be more organized with my employment records going forward.

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Yeah, I learned that the hard way when I had to appeal a benefit determination. Having your own records makes the process much smoother.

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