How has unemployment changed over time - Washington ESD benefits and filing process evolution
Been thinking about this lately as I'm dealing with my own claim issues. My dad was on unemployment back in the 80s and he just had to show up at the office once a week and sign a paper. Now with Washington ESD everything is online through SecureAccess Washington, we have to do job searches every week and document everything digitally. The weekly claim filing is way more complicated too - you have to answer all these detailed questions about any work you did, income earned, etc. And don't get me started on how long adjudication takes now compared to back then. Has anyone else noticed how much the whole unemployment system has evolved? Wondering if all these changes have made things better or worse for claimants.
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Diego Ramirez
The biggest change I've seen is the job search requirements. Used to be you just had to be 'available for work' but now Washington ESD requires 3 job search activities per week and you have to log everything in WorkSourceWA. The documentation requirements are insane compared to what my parents dealt with.
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Anastasia Sokolov
•wait you have to use WorkSourceWA? I thought that was optional
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Diego Ramirez
•Nope, it's mandatory now. You have to register and maintain an active job search profile there. Washington ESD can audit your job search activities at any time.
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Sean O'Connor
Technology has definitely streamlined some parts but created new problems. The old system was slower but more personal - you could actually talk to someone when you had issues. Now getting through to Washington ESD on the phone is nearly impossible. I've been trying to reach them about my adjudication for weeks.
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Zara Ahmed
•OMG yes! The phone system is terrible. I tried calling 200+ times in one day and never got through.
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Sean O'Connor
•Have you tried Claimyr? A friend told me about it - claimyr.com - they help you get through to Washington ESD agents. There's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works. I'm considering trying it since I can't reach anyone the normal way.
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Zara Ahmed
•Never heard of that, is it legit? Sounds too good to be true honestly
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Luca Conti
The benefit calculation formulas have gotten more complex too. Back in the day it was pretty straightforward - now with all the different earnings periods and base year calculations, half the people don't even understand how their benefit amount was determined.
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Nia Johnson
•This! I have no idea how they calculated my weekly benefit amount. The letter they sent was completely confusing.
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Luca Conti
•It's based on your highest earning quarter in your base year, but the formula involves all sorts of calculations. Much more complicated than the old flat-rate systems some states used to have.
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CyberNinja
what really gets me is how everything is digital now but the system still crashes all the time especially on sundays when everyone is trying to file their weekly claims. you'd think after all these years Washington ESD would have figured out their server capacity
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ShadowHunter
•The Sunday crashes are the worst! I always try to file early morning now to avoid the rush.
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Diego Ramirez
•Pro tip: file your weekly claim on Monday or Tuesday if possible. Way less server issues then.
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Mateo Lopez
I think the biggest change is how much more scrutiny there is now. Every little thing gets flagged for adjudication. My mom was on unemployment in the 90s and never had to deal with all these verification requirements and identity checks.
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Sean O'Connor
•The identity verification process alone is a nightmare now. They want documents for everything.
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Anastasia Sokolov
•probably because of all the fraud during covid, they tightened everything up
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Mateo Lopez
•Makes sense but it's definitely made the whole process more stressful for legitimate claimants.
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Aisha Abdullah
One thing that's definitely better now is the direct deposit. My dad used to have to go pick up physical checks from the unemployment office. At least now Washington ESD deposits benefits directly into your account once everything is approved.
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ShadowHunter
•True, that is convenient when it works. Though I've heard some people have issues with the debit card option.
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Aisha Abdullah
•Yeah the debit card has fees I think. Direct deposit to your own bank account is definitely the way to go.
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Ethan Davis
The appeals process has changed a lot too. Everything used to be done in person at hearings, now most of it is over the phone or video. Not sure if that's better or worse for claimants trying to explain their situation.
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Diego Ramirez
•I had a phone hearing last year and it went fine. Actually prefer it to having to take time off work to go somewhere in person.
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Nia Johnson
•I would hate doing it over the phone, I need to see people's faces when I'm explaining something important
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Yuki Tanaka
Don't forget about all the different benefit types now. Regular UI, standby, workshare... it's way more complicated than it used to be. Most people don't even know about standby status for temporary layoffs.
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Zara Ahmed
•What's standby status? I've never heard of that
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Yuki Tanaka
•It's for when you're temporarily laid off but expect to return to the same employer. Different rules than regular unemployment - you don't have to do job searches but you have to be available to return when called back.
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Zara Ahmed
•wish I had known about that during my layoff last year!
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Carmen Ortiz
The waiting week elimination was a huge improvement though. Having to wait a full week before getting any benefits was brutal, especially for people living paycheck to paycheck.
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Sean O'Connor
•When did they get rid of the waiting week? I remember having to deal with that years ago.
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Carmen Ortiz
•I think it was around 2018 or 2019 in Washington. Made a huge difference for people who really needed that first week of benefits.
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MidnightRider
My biggest complaint is how impersonal everything has become. You used to have a caseworker who knew your situation. Now you're just a number in the system and every interaction starts from scratch.
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Anastasia Sokolov
•this is so true, and when you finally do get someone on the phone they have no context about your previous calls or issues
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Sean O'Connor
•That's another reason I'm thinking about trying Claimyr. At least then I know I'll actually get through to someone who can help instead of waiting on hold for hours.
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Andre Laurent
The fact that you can file claims online 24/7 is definitely an improvement. Before you had to call during business hours or show up in person. But the trade-off is when something goes wrong, you're stuck until you can reach a human.
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CyberNinja
•exactly! the convenience is great until you need actual help
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Diego Ramirez
•The self-service options have gotten better over the years though. You can check claim status, payment history, download forms, etc. all online now.
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Zoe Papadopoulos
I think the fraud detection systems have gotten way more sophisticated but also way more likely to flag legitimate claims. My sister got caught up in some identity verification mess that took months to resolve.
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Mateo Lopez
•The identity verification requirements are crazy now. They wanted like 5 different documents from me.
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Zoe Papadopoulos
•Yeah and if you don't have exactly what they want or it's not clear enough quality, your whole claim gets held up in adjudication.
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Jamal Washington
One thing that hasn't changed much is how long everything takes. Adjudication still takes forever, appeals still take months, overpayment disputes drag on and on. Some things never change with government agencies I guess.
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ShadowHunter
•This is what frustrates me the most. With all the technology improvements, you'd think they could process things faster.
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Sean O'Connor
•I've been waiting 6 weeks for my adjudication to resolve. Tried everything to reach them until someone suggested Claimyr. Finally got through to an actual Washington ESD agent who could explain what was holding up my claim.
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Jamal Washington
•How much does that cost? Seems like we shouldn't have to pay extra just to reach the agency that owes us benefits.
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Mei Wong
the work search requirements are definitely the biggest change for me. my uncle was on unemployment in the 70s and basically just had to check in once a week. now its 3 activities per week documented online plus you have to accept suitable work offers or lose benefits
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Yuki Tanaka
•And the definition of 'suitable work' has gotten broader too. Used to be you could hold out for something in your field, now they expect you to take anything after a certain number of weeks.
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Nia Johnson
•How many weeks before they expect you to take any job? I'm worried about this.
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Yuki Tanaka
•It varies but generally after 13 weeks they expect you to consider work at 75% of your previous wage. The rules are pretty detailed in the Washington ESD handbook.
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Liam Fitzgerald
At least the payment processing has gotten faster. Once your claim is approved, benefits usually show up within 1-2 business days instead of waiting for physical checks in the mail.
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Aisha Abdullah
•True, though getting to the 'approved' stage seems to take longer than ever with all the verification steps.
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Zara Ahmed
•yeah the actual payment is fast but getting approved in the first place is a nightmare
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PixelWarrior
The online portal is helpful when it works but the user interface is pretty outdated. You'd think Washington ESD would modernize their website design at some point.
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CyberNinja
•the SecureAccess Washington site looks like it was designed in 2005
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Diego Ramirez
•Function over form I guess, but yeah it could definitely use a visual update. At least the important information is there once you figure out how to navigate it.
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Amara Adebayo
Overall I think the system has more safeguards now but is also more bureaucratic. Better fraud prevention but harder for legitimate claimants to get help when they need it. Technology has solved some problems but created others.
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ShadowHunter
•That's a good summary. It's definitely a trade-off between efficiency and accessibility.
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Sean O'Connor
•Which is why services like Claimyr exist now - to bridge the gap when you can't reach Washington ESD through normal channels. Sometimes you just need to talk to a real person about your specific situation.
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Amara Adebayo
•Makes sense. The system has gotten so complex that navigating it on your own can be really challenging, especially if you run into problems.
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