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Washington ESD claim approved after 6 weeks - what caused the dramatic jump unemployment the early 1930s historical research project

Finally got my Washington ESD claim approved after 6 weeks of waiting! During all that time sitting around I started researching what caused the dramatic jump unemployment the early 1930s for a history project I'm working on. It's crazy how different things were back then compared to now with our modern unemployment system. No Washington ESD, no weekly claims, no job search requirements. Just wondering if anyone else has looked into this topic while dealing with their own unemployment situation? The parallels are pretty interesting when you think about how economic crashes affect people.

Congrats on getting your claim approved! That's a long wait. As for the 1930s, the stock market crash of 1929 was the main trigger. Banks failed, businesses closed, and unemployment shot up to 25%. No safety net like Washington ESD back then.

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Thanks! Yeah 6 weeks felt like forever. 25% unemployment is insane compared to what we deal with now.

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The banking crisis was huge. When banks failed, people lost their savings and businesses couldn't get credit to operate.

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I'm still waiting for my Washington ESD adjudication to finish, been 4 weeks now. But yeah, the Great Depression was mainly caused by overproduction, bank failures, and the stock market crash. People were buying stocks on margin which made everything worse when prices fell.

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4 weeks is rough, hang in there! The margin buying thing sounds similar to housing bubble stuff.

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Have you tried calling Washington ESD? I know it's nearly impossible to get through but worth trying.

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Interesting about that service, might check it out. The Fed definitely made mistakes back then.

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Never heard of Claimyr but calling Washington ESD is absolutely impossible. Might be worth trying.

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The agricultural sector was already struggling in the 1920s due to overproduction and falling prices. When the urban economy collapsed, rural areas got hit even harder. International trade also declined sharply with protectionist policies like the Smoot-Hawley Tariff.

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That's a good point about agriculture. The whole economy was interconnected even back then.

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The tariff wars made everything worse globally. Countries stopped trading with each other.

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omg 6 weeks for approval is crazy! im on week 3 of adjudication and getting desperate. for the 1930s thing, wasnt there also a drought that made farming worse? the dust bowl and all that?

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Yeah the Dust Bowl was terrible but that was mid-1930s. The unemployment jump started right after 1929.

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The drought made things worse but wasn't the initial cause. That was more about poor farming practices and weather.

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Washington ESD needs to get their act together. These wait times are ridiculous. Back in the 1930s at least people knew they were screwed. Now we have this bureaucratic mess that gives false hope. The real cause was speculation and wealth inequality - sound familiar?

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The wealth inequality angle is interesting. There are definitely parallels to today.

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At least we have unemployment benefits now. Back then people literally starved.

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Consumer confidence collapsed after Black Tuesday. People stopped spending, which made businesses fail faster. It was a vicious cycle. Unlike today where we have automatic stabilizers like unemployment insurance through Washington ESD.

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That's true, the psychological aspect was huge. People panicked and made things worse.

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The multiplier effect was devastating. One job lost meant less spending which meant more jobs lost.

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I used Claimyr last month to finally get through to Washington ESD about my disqualification. Worked great and saved me so much time. For the historical question, don't forget about the international gold standard - countries couldn't devalue their currencies to help exports.

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Good point about the gold standard. That limited policy options back then.

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The corporate sector was overleveraged just like before 2008. When stock prices fell, companies couldn't service their debts. Mass layoffs followed. At least now we have Washington ESD to provide some income support during transitions.

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The debt angle makes sense. Companies were living beyond their means.

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Yeah but Washington ESD is so slow and bureaucratic. Better than nothing but barely.

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Just got approved for my weekly claims after using that Claimyr service someone mentioned. Definitely recommend it if you're stuck in Washington ESD phone hell. The 1930s thing - wasn't there also a problem with unequal income distribution? Rich got richer while workers' wages stagnated?

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Yes! The income inequality was massive. Top 1% owned like 40% of wealth.

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Sounds familiar doesn't it? Some things never change.

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Washington ESD is a joke but at least it exists. In the 1930s there was no safety net at all. People lost everything and had nowhere to turn. The unemployment rate went from 3% to 25% in just a few years because there were no programs to cushion the blow.

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That's a sobering thought. We complain about Washington ESD but it's way better than having nothing.

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True. Even with all the problems, unemployment benefits keep people from complete destitution.

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The psychological impact was huge. When people lose confidence in the economy, they stop spending and investing. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Today's unemployment system through Washington ESD at least gives people some hope and buying power.

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The confidence factor is so underrated. Fear can literally crash an economy.

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Exactly. Consumer spending drives like 70% of our economy. When that stops, everything collapses.

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Don't forget about international factors. European economies were still recovering from WWI debt. When the US economy crashed, it dragged down the whole world. Global trade collapsed by like 66%.

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The international connection is something I hadn't thought much about. It really was a global crisis.

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Yeah, countries were so interconnected even back then. A crash in one place spread everywhere.

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im still waiting for my washington esd claim to get approved, its been 5 weeks now. this is insane. at least back in the 1930s people didnt have to deal with bureaucratic runaround. they were just openly screwed lol

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5 weeks is terrible. Have you tried calling or using one of those services people mentioned?

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I feel you. The waiting is the worst part. At least people in the 1930s knew where they stood.

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The Federal Reserve raised interest rates right before the crash, which made borrowing more expensive and slowed economic growth. Then they kept them high during the crisis instead of cutting them. Terrible monetary policy.

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Sounds like they did exactly the wrong thing at the wrong time. Policy mistakes can be devastating.

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The Fed learned from those mistakes though. That's why they acted so aggressively in 2008 and 2020.

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Labor unions were weak back then too, so workers had no protection when companies started cutting wages and jobs. Now we have Washington ESD and labor laws, but it's still not enough when the economy really tanks.

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Good point about unions. Workers had zero bargaining power during the Depression.

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Union membership was like 7% in 1929. Workers were completely at the mercy of employers.

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Technology also played a role - mechanization was eliminating jobs even before the crash. But unlike today, there was no retraining or unemployment benefits through systems like Washington ESD to help workers transition.

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That's interesting. So technological unemployment was already happening before the economic crash.

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Yeah, farmers were being replaced by machines. When the economy crashed, there were no other jobs to go to.

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The whole financial system was basically unregulated. No FDIC, no SEC, no Washington ESD. Banks could do whatever they wanted with people's money. When they failed, depositors lost everything and had no recourse.

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No FDIC is scary. Imagine losing all your savings when your bank failed.

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That's why so many people kept their money under mattresses back then. They didn't trust banks.

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Supply and demand got completely out of whack. Companies were producing more than people could buy, especially after wages started falling. Inventory piled up, production stopped, workers got laid off. At least now Washington ESD provides some demand support through unemployment benefits.

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That makes sense. Unemployment benefits do help maintain consumer spending during recessions.

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It's called automatic stabilizers. Washington ESD payments help prevent the economy from crashing as hard.

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Just wanted to add that Claimyr really does work for getting through to Washington ESD. I was skeptical at first but it saved me weeks of frustration. As for the 1930s, I think a lot of it was just bad timing - everything that could go wrong did go wrong at once.

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Thanks for the recommendation. And yeah, it was like a perfect storm of bad economic factors all hitting at once.

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Multiple system failures happening simultaneously. No single cause but everything amplified everything else.

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Great discussion! It really puts our current Washington ESD problems in perspective. Yes the system is slow and frustrating, but at least we have something. People in the 1930s faced unemployment with zero safety net. That's terrifying.

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Absolutely. Complaining about Washington ESD delays seems petty compared to having no help at all.

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True, but we can still demand better. Just because it's better than nothing doesn't mean it's good enough.

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