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Gabriel Freeman

Can you receive SSI and Washington ESD unemployment at the same time?

I'm getting SSI for disability but I'm also able to work part-time under the ticket to work program. My hours got cut drastically at my job last month and I'm wondering if I can file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD while still receiving SSI? I don't want to mess up either benefit but I really need the extra income. Has anyone dealt with this situation before?

This is actually a complex situation that requires careful navigation. SSI recipients can potentially receive unemployment benefits, but there are specific rules. The key issue is that to receive unemployment, you must be able and available for work, which could affect your SSI disability determination. You'll need to report any unemployment benefits to Social Security Administration.

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So I won't automatically lose my SSI if I file for unemployment? I'm really worried about that.

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Not automatically, but SSA will review your case. If you're receiving unemployment benefits, it suggests you're able to work, which could trigger a disability review. The Ticket to Work program does provide some protections though.

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I went through this exact situation last year! You CAN receive both but you have to be super careful about reporting everything correctly. Washington ESD will ask about other benefits when you file your weekly claims, and you must report your SSI. Also, any unemployment benefits will reduce your SSI payment dollar for dollar after the first $85 per month.

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Wait, so if I get $400 in unemployment, my SSI would go down by $315? That doesn't seem worth it then.

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Actually it's more complicated than that. The first $65 of any income is excluded, then the next $20, then they reduce SSI by 50 cents for every dollar you earn from work. But unemployment isn't considered earned income, so it's dollar for dollar reduction after the first $85 total.

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You need to talk to someone at Washington ESD about this before you file. I tried calling their customer service line like 50 times and kept getting hung up on or put on hold forever. Super frustrating when you need answers about something this important.

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This sounds really risky to me. If you're on SSI for disability, how can you say you're able and available for work? That seems contradictory. I'd be worried about losing both benefits if the agencies start talking to each other.

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It's not necessarily contradictory if someone is participating in Ticket to Work. SSI allows for work attempts and gradual return to work. The issue is more about the level of work capacity and how it's reported to both agencies.

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I guess but it still seems like walking a tightrope. One wrong move and you could lose everything.

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The bigger question is whether it's even worth it financially. If unemployment reduces your SSI payment, you might not be getting much extra money and you're taking on all this risk and paperwork headache.

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That's what I'm starting to think too. Maybe I should just focus on finding more work hours instead.

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I work at a disability advocacy organization and we see this question a lot. You absolutely need to contact both agencies before doing anything. SSA has work incentives that might help, but you need to understand them fully. Also consider that unemployment benefits are temporary while SSI continues as long as you're eligible.

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Would you recommend talking to SSA first or Washington ESD first?

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I'd start with SSA since your SSI eligibility is the more complex issue. They can explain how unemployment benefits would affect your payments and whether it might trigger a disability review.

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My cousin had SSI and tried to get unemployment when she lost her part time job. It was a nightmare of paperwork and phone calls. Took months to sort everything out and in the end she barely got any extra money because of how they calculate everything.

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Did she manage to keep both benefits in the end?

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Yeah but it was touch and go for a while. She had to do extra medical reviews and prove she was still disabled but also able to work. Very stressful.

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One thing I learned is that you have to report the unemployment benefits to SSA immediately. Don't wait for them to find out on their own because that can cause overpayment issues. Same with reporting your SSI to Washington ESD when you file your weekly claims.

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How quickly do you have to report changes to SSA?

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Within 10 days of receiving the first unemployment payment. They're pretty strict about the reporting requirements.

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This whole system is so confusing. Why can't the government agencies just talk to each other instead of making people jump through all these hoops?

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Right? It's like they want to make it as complicated as possible.

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Have you looked into other programs that might help? Sometimes there are local assistance programs or food banks that can help bridge the gap without affecting your benefits.

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I hadn't thought of that. Do you know where I can find information about local programs?

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Try contacting 211 or your local Department of Social and Health Services office. They usually have lists of available assistance programs.

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Let me clarify the income calculations since there seems to be some confusion. For SSI recipients, unemployment benefits are considered unearned income. SSI excludes the first $20 of unearned income per month, then reduces your SSI payment dollar for dollar after that. So if you get $400 in unemployment, your SSI would be reduced by $380.

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Thanks for the correction. I was mixing up the earned vs unearned income rules.

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So basically I'd only get an extra $20 per month? That definitely doesn't seem worth the risk and hassle.

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Before you decide anything, you should know that Washington ESD adjudication can take weeks or months, especially for complex cases like yours. Even if you apply, you might not see benefits for a long time.

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That's so true. I've been waiting 6 weeks for my regular unemployment claim to get through adjudication. Can't imagine how long it would take for something this complicated.

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If you do decide to pursue this, definitely use a service like Claimyr to get through to Washington ESD when you need to ask questions. The hold times are insane and you'll need to talk to someone who understands these dual benefit situations.

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I'm bookmarking that claimyr.com site just in case. Thanks for the tip.

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Another thing to consider - if your work hours were cut, you might qualify for partial unemployment benefits rather than full benefits. That could affect the calculations differently and might be less risky for your SSI status.

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I didn't know there were partial benefits. How does that work?

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If you're still working reduced hours, Washington ESD can pay partial benefits based on the difference between your reduced wages and your full benefit amount. You'd still need to be able and available for full-time work though.

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Honestly, after reading all this, I think your best bet is to contact a disability attorney or advocate who specializes in work incentives. This is too complicated to figure out on your own and the stakes are too high.

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That's probably good advice. Do you know how to find someone like that?

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Your local legal aid society should have disability advocates, or you can contact the Washington State Department of Social and Health Services for referrals.

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Just want to emphasize what others have said - document EVERYTHING. Keep records of all your communications with both agencies, all benefit payments, all work hours and wages. If something goes wrong, you'll need that paper trail.

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Good point. I'll start keeping better records right away.

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I'm in a similar situation but haven't made any moves yet. Following this thread to see what you decide to do. It's helpful to see all the different perspectives.

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I'll try to update the thread once I talk to some experts. This is all more complicated than I expected.

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One last thought - make sure you understand the Substantial Gainful Activity (SGA) limits for SSI. If your combined income gets too high, it could affect your disability status even if you're following all the rules.

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Good point. For 2025, the SGA limit is $1,470 per month for non-blind individuals. But there are work incentives and exclusions that can help you earn more without losing benefits.

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Thanks everyone for all the detailed responses. I think I'm going to contact a disability advocate first, then maybe use that Claimyr service to talk to Washington ESD if needed. This is definitely not something to rush into without expert guidance.

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That sounds like a wise approach. Take your time and get all the facts before making any decisions.

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Smart move. Better to be cautious with something this important.

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I've been through a similar situation and wanted to share some additional perspective. While everyone's covered the technical aspects well, I'd also suggest looking into whether your state has any disability employment programs that could help you increase your work hours instead of pursuing unemployment. Washington has the Division of Vocational Rehabilitation (DVR) that works with SSI recipients to expand employment opportunities. Sometimes they can even provide job coaching or help negotiate with employers for more stable hours. This might be a less risky path than navigating the unemployment/SSI intersection, especially given how little extra income you'd actually receive after the benefit reductions.

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