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Javier Mendoza

Can I collect unemployment and SSI at the same time in Washington state?

I'm currently receiving SSI disability benefits and wondering if I can also apply for unemployment through Washington ESD. My doctor says I can work part-time now but I'm having trouble finding a job. I've heard conflicting information about whether you can get both benefits simultaneously. Has anyone been in this situation? I don't want to mess up my SSI by filing for UI if it's not allowed.

This is actually a complex situation that depends on your specific circumstances. Generally, to qualify for unemployment you need to be able and available for work, which can conflict with SSI disability determinations. However, if your doctor has cleared you for part-time work, you might have options. I'd recommend contacting both Washington ESD and Social Security to discuss your specific case.

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Thanks for the response. So it's not automatically disqualifying? I'm just worried about losing my SSI if I apply for unemployment.

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It's not automatically disqualifying, but there are definitely rules to follow. The key is making sure you're truly able and available for work as required by Washington ESD while maintaining your SSI eligibility.

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I was in a similar situation last year. The main issue is that unemployment requires you to actively search for work and be available for full-time employment, while SSI is based on your inability to work. It's a catch-22. I ended up not applying for UI because I was afraid of losing my SSI benefits.

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That's exactly what I'm worried about. Did you ever get clarity on whether it was actually possible or not?

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Honestly, I never got a straight answer. The representatives at both agencies gave me different information each time I called.

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Never heard of that service before. Is it legit? I've been trying to call Washington ESD for weeks with no luck.

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From what I understand, if you're on SSI and want to work, there are work incentive programs through Social Security that might be better than unemployment. SSDI recipients have different rules than SSI, but for SSI there's the Plan to Achieve Self-Support (PASS) program and other options.

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I haven't heard of those programs. Would those be through Social Security rather than Washington ESD?

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Yes, those would be through Social Security. They're designed specifically for people on disability benefits who want to work. Might be worth looking into before pursuing unemployment.

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Be really careful here. I know someone who applied for unemployment while on disability and it triggered a review of their disability benefits. They ended up losing both for a while until they could straighten everything out. The systems don't talk to each other well.

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Oh no, that's exactly what I was afraid of. How long did it take them to get it sorted out?

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Several months. It was a nightmare. They had to go through appeals processes with both agencies. That's why I'd really recommend getting professional advice before doing anything.

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The fundamental issue is the 'able and available' requirement for unemployment. When you're on SSI, Social Security has determined you're disabled and unable to work. But if your condition has improved and you can work part-time, you need to report that to Social Security anyway. They have specific rules about how much you can earn while on SSI.

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So should I report the change in my condition to Social Security first before even thinking about unemployment?

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Absolutely. You're required to report any changes in your condition or ability to work to Social Security. That should be your first step.

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Another thing to consider is that unemployment benefits might count as income that could affect your SSI payment amount. SSI has strict income limits, so even if you could get both, the unemployment might reduce your SSI payment.

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I didn't even think about that. This is getting more complicated than I thought.

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That's a good point. SSI has income exclusions and limits, so any unemployment benefits would likely be counted as unearned income.

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I would definitely recommend speaking with a disability attorney or advocate before making any moves. This kind of situation requires someone who understands both systems. Many offer free consultations for disability-related issues.

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That's probably the safest approach. Do you know how to find disability attorneys who deal with these kinds of issues?

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You can contact your local legal aid office or look for attorneys who specialize in Social Security disability law. Many have experience with work incentive programs too.

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Just wanted to add that if you do decide to pursue this, document everything. Keep records of all your communications with both agencies, any medical documentation about your ability to work, and dates of all phone calls or meetings.

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Good advice. I've learned the hard way that documentation is crucial when dealing with government agencies.

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Since you mentioned having trouble reaching Washington ESD, I'll mention again that Claimyr really helped me get through when I needed to discuss a complex situation like yours. When you have questions that require speaking to an actual person rather than getting generic information, it's worth trying.

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I think I'm going to try that. I need to talk to someone who can look at my specific situation rather than getting general information.

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One more thought - if your doctor has cleared you for part-time work, make sure you get that in writing. You'll likely need medical documentation for both agencies showing your current work capacity.

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That's a good point. I should get a letter from my doctor specifying exactly what kind of work I can do and for how many hours.

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To summarize the key points: 1) Report any changes in your condition to Social Security first, 2) Get medical documentation of your work capacity, 3) Speak with both agencies about your specific situation, 4) Consider consulting with a disability attorney, and 5) Be aware that unemployment benefits might affect your SSI payment amount.

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Thank you, this gives me a clear path forward. I'll start with reporting the change to Social Security and getting documentation from my doctor.

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I just want to echo what others have said about being careful. The rules around disability benefits and work are really complex, and mistakes can be costly. Take your time and get proper advice.

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Definitely. I'd rather take it slow and do it right than rush and create problems for myself.

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Also remember that even if you can't collect both benefits simultaneously, understanding your work capacity might open up other opportunities. Washington state has vocational rehabilitation services that might be helpful in your job search.

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I hadn't thought about vocational rehabilitation. That might be another resource to look into.

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Good luck with everything. It's frustrating how complicated these systems are, but it sounds like you're approaching it the right way by asking questions first.

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Thanks for all the help everyone. This thread has given me a much better understanding of what I need to do.

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Hope it works out for you. Just remember to keep good records of everything and don't be afraid to ask questions if something doesn't seem right.

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Will do. I really appreciate everyone taking the time to share their knowledge and experiences.

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One last thing - if you end up needing to appeal any decisions or deal with complex issues with Washington ESD, that's another situation where Claimyr might be useful for getting through to speak with supervisors or appeals coordinators.

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Good to know. Hopefully it won't come to that, but I'll keep it in mind.

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This has been a really informative thread. I learned a lot just from reading everyone's responses. Shows how complex these benefit interactions can be.

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It really has been helpful. I'm glad I asked here before doing anything that might have caused problems.

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Best of luck with your job search once you get everything sorted out. It's great that your condition has improved to the point where you can consider working again.

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Thank you! I'm cautiously optimistic about being able to work part-time. Just want to make sure I handle the benefit issues correctly.

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Feel free to update this thread once you get some official answers from the agencies. It would be helpful for others in similar situations.

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I will definitely update once I know more. Thanks again everyone for all the helpful advice and information.

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