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Olivia Harris

Can you get SSI and unemployment at the same time in Washington ESD?

I'm really confused about whether I can collect both SSI disability payments and Washington ESD unemployment benefits at the same time. My disability attorney says I might be able to work part-time but I'm not sure if that affects my unemployment eligibility. Has anyone dealt with this situation before? I don't want to mess up either benefit program.

This is actually a complex situation that depends on your specific circumstances. Generally, SSI requires you to be unable to work substantial gainful activity, while unemployment requires you to be able and available for work. These seem contradictory, but there are some exceptions if you're able to do limited work.

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That's what I was worried about. My SSI case worker hasn't been very clear about this.

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yeah the requirements do seem to contradict each other when you think about it

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You really need to speak with both agencies about this. Washington ESD has specific rules about concurrent benefits, and SSA has their own requirements. I'd recommend calling Washington ESD first to explain your situation.

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I've been trying to call Washington ESD for days but can never get through. The lines are always busy.

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Never heard of that before. Is it legit?

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Drake

I think you can get both but you have to report the SSI payments to Washington ESD and it might reduce your unemployment benefits. Not 100% sure though.

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That's not quite right. SSI payments themselves don't reduce UI benefits, but the work capability requirements are the main issue.

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THIS IS SO FRUSTRATING!! Why can't these government agencies just give straight answers about their own rules?? I've been dealing with similar confusion for months and nobody seems to know anything!!

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I feel your pain. The whole system is confusing and they don't make it easy to get clear information.

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Drake

tell me about it, spent 3 hours on hold yesterday just to get hung up on

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From what I understand, the key issue is whether you're claiming to be unable to work (for SSI) while also claiming to be able and available for work (for unemployment). Some people with disabilities can work limited hours or certain types of jobs, which might allow both benefits in specific circumstances.

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That makes sense. My doctor said I can work part-time with restrictions, so maybe that's the key.

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Exactly. If you can document that you're able to work within certain limitations, that might satisfy both programs' requirements.

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my cousin was getting both for a while but then they made him choose one or the other. not sure what the specific rules were

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Do you know which one he ended up choosing?

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he went with SSI because it was more reliable long term

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You definitely need to get official guidance on this. Each case is different and you don't want to accidentally commit benefit fraud by receiving payments you're not entitled to.

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That's my biggest fear. I don't want to get in trouble with either agency.

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Good point about fraud concerns. Better to be safe and get proper authorization.

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Here's what I know from helping others with this situation: You need to demonstrate to Washington ESD that despite receiving SSI, you are still able and available for work within your limitations. This usually requires medical documentation showing what types of work you can perform.

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Do I need to provide this documentation when I file my weekly claims?

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You should have it ready, but you'll likely need to provide it during the initial eligibility determination process.

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I tried getting both a few years ago and Washington ESD denied my unemployment claim because of the SSI. They said the programs were incompatible.

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Oh no, that's what I was afraid of. Did you appeal the decision?

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No, I just stuck with the SSI since it was already approved.

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Rules may have changed since then, and each case is evaluated individually based on the specific circumstances.

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Actually had success with Claimyr last month when I couldn't get through to Washington ESD about a different issue. Took about 10 minutes to connect with an agent who could answer my questions properly.

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Really? That's encouraging. I'm going to check out that video demo.

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sounds too good to be true but if it works...

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The important thing to remember is that SSI has a substantial gainful activity limit ($1,550/month in 2025), so if your potential unemployment benefits plus any part-time work income exceeds that, it could affect your SSI eligibility anyway.

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I didn't know about that income limit. That's really helpful information.

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Yeah the income limits are pretty strict with SSI

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Have you considered talking to a benefits counselor? There are free services that help people navigate these kinds of complex benefit situations.

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Where would I find one of those counselors?

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Try contacting your local DSHS office or search for 'benefits counseling' in your area.

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whatever you do dont try to hide the SSI from Washington ESD. they'll find out eventually and then you'll be in real trouble

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Definitely not planning to hide anything. I want to do this all above board.

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Smart approach. Transparency is always the best policy with government benefits.

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My understanding is that you can potentially receive both, but you need to be very careful about how you present your work capability to each agency. The key is consistency in your claims about what kind of work you can perform.

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That makes sense. I need to make sure my story is consistent between both agencies.

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Exactly. Your medical documentation should support the same work limitations for both programs.

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I'm in a similar boat and honestly it's been a nightmare trying to get clear answers from anyone. The whole system seems designed to confuse people.

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Right? It shouldn't be this complicated to understand your own benefits.

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EXACTLY!! Why is everything so unnecessarily complicated??

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Bottom line: Get proper documentation from your doctor about your work capabilities, be transparent with both agencies, and get official approval before assuming you can receive both benefits simultaneously.

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This is really good advice. I'm going to start with getting updated medical documentation.

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Good plan. Having proper documentation is key for any benefit program.

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Thanks for asking this question. I've been wondering about the same thing but was too scared to even ask.

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Glad it helped! Hopefully we both get some clarity on this.

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Yeah, these kinds of questions help everyone understand the system better.

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Update us when you find out more! This is valuable info for others in similar situations.

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Will do! I'm planning to use that Claimyr service to get through to Washington ESD this week.

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Looking forward to hearing how it goes!

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Final thought: Document everything. Keep records of all communications with both agencies, all medical documentation, and any decisions made. This will protect you and help if there are any issues later.

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Great advice. I'll start a folder for all this paperwork right now.

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Yes, documentation is crucial when dealing with any government benefits.

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good luck with everything. hope you get it sorted out soon

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Thanks! This thread has been really helpful.

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