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Alice Pierce

Can I get disability and unemployment benefits at the same time in Washington?

I'm really confused about whether I can collect both disability payments and unemployment from Washington ESD at the same time. I have a partial disability that limits what jobs I can do, but I'm still able to work in certain positions. My doctor says I'm cleared for light duty work but I've been struggling to find employers who will accommodate my restrictions. Can I file for unemployment while also receiving disability benefits? I don't want to mess up either benefit by doing something wrong.

This is actually a pretty complex situation that a lot of people face. Generally speaking, to qualify for unemployment in Washington you need to be able and available for work, which can conflict with some disability determinations. But if you're receiving partial disability or have work restrictions rather than being completely unable to work, there might be options.

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Thanks, that makes sense. My disability is partial - I can work but with restrictions on lifting and standing. Would that affect my unemployment eligibility?

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The key is proving you're able and available for suitable work within your restrictions. Washington ESD will look at whether there are jobs in your area that match your limitations.

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You definitely need to be careful here because the two systems have different requirements. For unemployment you have to certify that you're actively looking for work and available to accept jobs. But some disability programs require you to prove you can't work. It's a catch-22 situation.

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Exactly! That's what's so confusing. How do I prove I'm available for work for unemployment but also prove I'm disabled enough for disability benefits?

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The distinction is usually between being able to do ANY work versus being able to do your PREVIOUS work. Disability often looks at whether you can do your old job, while unemployment looks at whether you can do any suitable work.

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I went through this exact situation last year. The biggest challenge was getting through to Washington ESD to explain my circumstances properly. I spent weeks trying to call them to discuss my partial disability status and how it affected my job search requirements. Finally used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me get connected to an actual agent. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Made all the difference in getting my situation properly documented.

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How did that work out for you? Were you able to collect both types of benefits?

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Yes, but only because I could prove I was actively searching for work within my restrictions. The key was documenting my job search efforts and showing I was applying for positions I could physically do.

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Never heard of Claimyr before but calling Washington ESD is definitely a nightmare. Might have to check that out if I can't get through on my own.

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Be really careful about this because if you're not honest with either system you could end up having to pay back benefits. I know someone who got in trouble for not disclosing their disability payments to Washington ESD. Both agencies can access each other's records so hiding anything isn't worth the risk.

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That's exactly what I'm worried about. I want to be completely transparent but I also don't want to disqualify myself from benefits I might be entitled to.

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Smart approach. Always better to ask first and be upfront about your situation. The penalties for benefit fraud are severe.

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This is so frustrating! I'm in a similar boat - I have fibromyalgia but can still work part-time. Been trying to figure out if I can get partial unemployment benefits while working reduced hours. The Washington ESD website is confusing and their phone lines are always busy.

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That's different from the original question but related - you might qualify for partial unemployment benefits if your hours have been reduced due to your condition. Worth looking into the WorkShare program too.

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Thanks! I'll look into WorkShare. Had no idea that was even an option.

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From what I understand, the type of disability benefit matters a lot. Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) has different rules than state disability or workers compensation. Some allow part-time work while others don't. Same with unemployment - Washington has specific provisions for people with disabilities who are seeking work.

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I'm receiving state disability benefits, not federal SSDI. Does that make a difference for unemployment eligibility?

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It might, since state programs often have more flexibility. But you'll need to check the specific requirements for both programs to see where they overlap or conflict.

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The job search requirement is probably going to be your biggest hurdle. Washington ESD requires you to apply for a certain number of jobs each week, but with your restrictions you might have a limited pool of suitable positions. Make sure you document everything thoroughly.

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Good point about documentation. Should I be keeping records of why certain jobs aren't suitable due to my disability?

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Absolutely. Keep detailed records of your job search activities and any accommodations you've requested from employers. This will help if Washington ESD questions your efforts.

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Also make sure you're registered with WorkSource Washington and utilizing their disability employment services. That shows you're taking advantage of all available resources.

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Whatever you do, don't try to figure this out on your own by reading stuff online. Get official guidance from both agencies. I made the mistake of assuming I understood the rules and ended up creating problems for myself.

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How did you eventually get it sorted out?

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Had to go through an appeals process with Washington ESD which took months. Could have avoided the whole mess if I'd just talked to someone official from the start.

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Just wanted to follow up on my earlier comment about Claimyr - if you do decide to contact Washington ESD directly about your situation, that service really did help me get through. The regular phone lines were impossible but their system got me connected to an agent who could actually look at my case and give me specific guidance about my disability status.

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How much does something like that cost? Seems like we shouldn't have to pay extra just to talk to the agency that's supposed to help us.

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I hear you on the frustration, but honestly after weeks of trying to get through on my own, it was worth it to get my questions answered quickly. The alternative was continuing to stress about whether I was doing everything right.

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Check if your state has any vocational rehabilitation services too. They often work with both disability and unemployment agencies to help people with disabilities find suitable work. Could be another resource for navigating this situation.

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That's a great suggestion. I hadn't thought about vocational rehabilitation. Do you know if they help with the application process for benefits?

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They mainly focus on job training and placement, but they're familiar with how different benefit programs work together. They might be able to provide guidance or advocate for you.

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I work in HR and see this situation a lot. One thing to keep in mind is that your former employer might have information that affects both claims. Make sure they're reporting your separation and any accommodation requests accurately to both agencies.

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I hadn't considered that angle. My former employer knew about my disability but we never formalized any accommodations. Could that be a problem?

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It could complicate things if there's any discrepancy in how your separation is reported. Worth making sure everyone has the same understanding of why you left and what your work limitations are.

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Been collecting unemployment for 8 weeks now and just found out I might qualify for disability benefits too. This thread couldn't have come at a better time! Going to look into the Claimyr thing to talk to Washington ESD about how this affects my ongoing claim.

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Let me know how it goes! I'm still trying to figure out my own situation but it's helpful to hear from others in similar circumstances.

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Will do. The whole process is so confusing but at least I know I'm not the only one dealing with this.

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Quick question - if you're approved for both, do the benefits offset each other or can you actually collect the full amount from both programs?

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That depends on the specific programs and your state's rules. Some benefits reduce others, while some can be collected simultaneously. You'll need to check the terms of each program.

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Makes sense. Probably another question for the agencies directly rather than trying to guess.

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The Americans with Disabilities Act might also come into play here, especially if you're having trouble finding work due to employer discrimination. Document any situations where employers seem to reject you because of your disability rather than your qualifications.

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That's something I hadn't thought about. How would I prove that though? Most employers don't explicitly say they're not hiring due to disability.

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It's definitely hard to prove, but keeping detailed records of interactions and any questions about your disability during interviews can help establish a pattern if needed.

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Whatever you decide, make sure you understand the appeal process for both programs in case something goes wrong. I had to appeal a Washington ESD decision last year and it would have been much easier if I'd known the process from the beginning.

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Good advice. Were you able to represent yourself in the appeal or did you need help?

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I represented myself but it was stressful. There are legal aid services that help with these appeals if you qualify based on income.

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Has anyone dealt with this while also having dependents? I'm wondering if having kids affects the benefit calculations or eligibility for either program.

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Dependents can affect benefit amounts in some programs but usually don't change basic eligibility requirements. The interaction between multiple benefit programs gets more complex though.

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Thanks. Guess I'll need to factor that into my research too.

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One more thing to consider - make sure your medical documentation is current and detailed. Both agencies will want recent information about your functional limitations and work capacity. Outdated medical records could cause problems.

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My last evaluation was about 6 months ago. Think that's recent enough or should I get updated documentation?

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Six months might be okay depending on your condition, but if your situation has changed at all since then, updated documentation would be better. Agencies like to see current information.

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This whole thread has been super helpful. I'm in Washington too and dealing with similar issues. Going to save this and use it as a starting point for my own research. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences!

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Glad it helped! It's definitely made me feel less alone in dealing with this confusing situation.

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Exactly. Sometimes just knowing other people are going through the same thing makes it feel more manageable.

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Final thought - don't let anyone tell you that you can't or shouldn't apply for benefits you might be entitled to. The worst they can do is say no, but if you qualify for both programs and can meet the requirements, you shouldn't feel guilty about accessing the support that's available.

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Thanks for saying that. I've been feeling guilty about even considering applying for both, but you're right that I should pursue whatever help I'm entitled to.

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These programs exist for people in situations like yours. As long as you're honest about your circumstances and follow the rules, you shouldn't feel bad about using them.

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Hope this all works out for you OP. Keep us updated on how it goes - your experience could help other people in similar situations figure out their own path forward.

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I will! This thread has given me a much better understanding of what I need to do next. Really appreciate everyone taking the time to share their knowledge and experiences.

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That's what these forums are for. Good luck with everything!

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