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Riya Sharma

Can you have unemployment and disability benefits at the same time in Washington?

I'm really confused about whether I can collect both unemployment benefits and disability payments simultaneously. I've been getting Washington ESD unemployment for about 6 weeks now, but I also have a permanent disability that qualifies me for Social Security Disability. My caseworker at DSHS mentioned something about it being complicated, but I didn't fully understand. Has anyone dealt with this situation? I don't want to mess up my unemployment claim by applying for disability, but I also need the extra support.

Santiago Diaz

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The short answer is it depends on the type of disability benefits you're talking about. Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) has different rules than Supplemental Security Income (SSI). With SSDI, you generally can't collect both at the same time because you have to certify that you're able and available for work to get unemployment, but SSDI requires that you can't work. It's contradictory.

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Riya Sharma

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So if I apply for SSDI, would Washington ESD automatically stop my unemployment benefits?

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Santiago Diaz

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Not automatically, but if they find out during your weekly claim certification process, it could cause issues. You're required to report all income and benefits.

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Millie Long

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I went through this exact situation last year. The problem is that unemployment requires you to be actively searching for work and available to accept employment, while disability benefits are based on your inability to work. Washington ESD will consider it fraud if you're collecting both without proper disclosure.

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KaiEsmeralda

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What happened in your case? Did you have to pay anything back?

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Millie Long

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I was honest from the start and only applied for one at a time. But I know someone who got hit with an overpayment notice for $4,800 because they didn't report their disability approval.

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Debra Bai

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If you're having trouble getting through to Washington ESD to ask about this directly, I found a service called Claimyr that helped me reach an actual agent. They have this system that calls for you and gets you connected - saved me hours of trying to get through myself. Check out claimyr.com and there's a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. Might be worth it to get a definitive answer on your specific situation.

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Riya Sharma

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Thanks, I'll look into that. I've been trying to call Washington ESD for days with no luck.

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Never heard of that service before but honestly anything that helps get through to Washington ESD sounds worth trying.

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Laura Lopez

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There are some exceptions though. If you're receiving disability benefits but are still able to work part-time (like with a partial disability), you might be able to collect unemployment if you lose your job. The key is being honest about your work capacity when you file your weekly claims. Washington ESD looks at whether you're genuinely available for suitable work given your limitations.

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Riya Sharma

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My disability is physical but I can still do desk work. Would that make a difference?

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Laura Lopez

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Possibly, but you'd need to be very clear about what type of work you can accept and actively search for those positions. Document everything.

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This is getting complicated. Sounds like you really need to talk to someone at Washington ESD directly.

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Whatever you do, don't try to hide anything. I made that mistake years ago and ended up in adjudication hell for months. Washington ESD eventually finds out about everything through their data matching systems.

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Riya Sharma

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How do they find out? Do they share information with Social Security?

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Yes, there's data sharing between agencies. They call it cross-matching. If you're getting benefits from multiple sources, they'll eventually catch it.

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KaiEsmeralda

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I'm in a similar boat but with workers comp instead of disability. The rules seem to change depending on what state agency is involved. It's so confusing trying to figure out what you can and can't do.

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Santiago Diaz

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Workers comp is actually different - you can sometimes get both if your comp benefits don't equal your full wages, but there are offsets.

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KaiEsmeralda

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See, this is exactly the kind of thing I need to clarify with an actual person at Washington ESD.

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The waiting period for disability determination can be really long too - sometimes over a year. During that time, you might be able to collect unemployment if you're still able to work, but once you're approved for disability with a retroactive start date, it gets messy.

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Riya Sharma

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Retroactive? You mean they could approve me for disability going back to when I first applied?

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Exactly. And if that retroactive period overlaps with when you were getting unemployment, you could face an overpayment demand.

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This is why I hate dealing with government benefits. Everything has a catch.

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JaylinCharles

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Used Claimyr myself when I had an adjudication issue that dragged on for weeks. Worth every penny to actually talk to someone who could explain what was happening with my claim. The phone system at Washington ESD is absolutely brutal to navigate on your own.

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Riya Sharma

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How quickly were you able to get through using their service?

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JaylinCharles

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Same day I signed up. They called me back within a couple hours to let me know they'd gotten me an appointment for the next morning.

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Some states have specific programs for people with disabilities who want to work - might be worth checking if Washington has anything like that. Could help bridge the gap between benefits.

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Santiago Diaz

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Washington does have the Ticket to Work program through Social Security, but that's more about transitioning off disability benefits.

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Right, but there might be other state-specific programs through DSHS or DVR that could help.

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Lucas Schmidt

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honestly the whole system is set up to trip you up. like you're supposed to know all these complex rules that nobody explains clearly. then when you make a mistake they act like you're trying to commit fraud

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Freya Collins

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I feel this so hard. Spent months trying to figure out job search requirements only to find out I was doing it wrong the whole time.

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Lucas Schmidt

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exactly! and god forbid you ask questions because you can never get anyone on the phone

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LongPeri

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The key thing to remember is that unemployment is temporary income replacement while you look for work, while disability benefits are based on long-term inability to work. The fundamental purposes conflict, which is why it's so complicated to have both.

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Riya Sharma

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That makes sense when you put it that way. I guess I need to decide which path makes more sense for my situation.

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LongPeri

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Exactly. And whatever you decide, make sure you're completely transparent with both agencies about your situation.

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Oscar O'Neil

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If you do end up needing to contact Washington ESD about this, I'd suggest trying that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier. I was skeptical at first but it really does work - saved me probably 20+ hours of trying to get through myself when I had an overpayment issue to resolve.

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Riya Sharma

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I'm definitely going to try it. This seems too important to leave to chance with the regular phone system.

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Smart move. Some things are worth paying for and actually getting to talk to someone at Washington ESD is definitely one of them.

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One more thing - if you do get approved for disability, make sure you understand the trial work period rules. You might be able to work (and potentially collect unemployment if you lose that job) for a limited time without losing your disability benefits.

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Riya Sharma

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There's a trial work period? How does that work exactly?

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Social Security lets you work for up to 9 months (not necessarily consecutive) to test your ability to work without losing benefits. But it's complicated and has income limits.

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Liv Park

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Bottom line - get professional advice before you do anything. This isn't something you want to guess about. The penalties for getting it wrong can be severe, and the rules are too complex for most people to navigate alone.

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Riya Sharma

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You're absolutely right. I'll start with calling Washington ESD using that Claimyr service and see what they say about my specific situation.

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Good plan. Documentation is key too - keep records of every conversation and decision you make.

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Riya Sharma

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Thanks everyone for all the advice. This has been really helpful in understanding what I'm dealing with.

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