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Anthony Young

Can you get Washington ESD unemployment if your school closes mid-semester?

My vocational training program just shut down unexpectedly last week and I'm wondering if I can file for unemployment benefits through Washington ESD. I was enrolled full-time in a 9-month medical assistant program and had about 4 months left when they announced closure due to financial issues. I wasn't working while in school but I worked for 2 years before starting the program. Does anyone know if students can get UI benefits when their school closes? I'm really stressed about how I'm going to pay rent and bills now.

You might be eligible! Since you weren't working while in school, Washington ESD will look at your work history from before you started the program. The key is whether you have enough qualifying wages in your base period. You should definitely apply and let them make the determination.

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Thanks! I'm not sure what a base period is exactly. How do I figure out if I have enough qualifying wages?

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Your base period is usually the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you file. So if you file now, it would include your wages from when you were working before school. You need at least $1,000 in wages during your base period.

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I was in a similar situation when my trade school closed 2 years ago. I did get approved for benefits but it took forever to get through to someone at Washington ESD to explain my situation. The automated system kept asking about work searches and I wasn't sure how to handle that as a student.

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How long did it take for your claim to get approved? And did you have to do job searches right away?

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It took about 6 weeks total because they had to do some kind of review. And yes, I had to start job searching immediately once approved. The work search requirements are the same whether you're a displaced student or regular worker.

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Actually, there's a specific provision for students whose schools close unexpectedly. It's called the 'closed school provision' and Washington ESD has guidelines for this exact situation. You'll need documentation that the school closed and that you were enrolled when it happened.

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What kind of documentation do I need? The school sent an email but that's about it.

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The email should work as long as it shows the closure date and that you were enrolled. You might also want to get a letter from the school registrar if possible, or your enrollment records.

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I would also suggest getting any documentation about tuition refunds or financial aid impacts. Washington ESD sometimes asks about these things during the eligibility review.

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Getting through to Washington ESD to explain this situation is going to be your biggest challenge. I've been trying to reach them for weeks about my own claim issue and the phone system is impossible. Has anyone found a way to actually talk to a human there recently?

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I discovered this service called Claimyr that actually got me through to a Washington ESD agent last month. You can check it out at claimyr.com - they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows how it works. It was a lifesaver when I needed to explain my complicated work situation.

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I'll definitely look into that. I need to talk to someone who can walk me through the student situation specifically.

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Don't forget that if you do get approved, you'll need to be able and available for work. That means you can't be enrolled in another full-time program while collecting benefits. Some people don't realize this and get into trouble later.

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Good point. I was thinking about trying to transfer to another school but I guess I need to choose between that and unemployment benefits?

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Exactly. You can't be a full-time student and collect UI at the same time. Part-time might be okay but you'd need to check with Washington ESD about their specific rules.

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Actually, there are some exceptions for job training programs that are approved by Washington ESD. But regular academic programs usually disqualify you from benefits.

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File your claim as soon as possible! Even if there are questions about your eligibility, it's better to get the process started. Washington ESD can backdate payments if you're approved, but only from the date you first filed.

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I'll do that today. Should I mention the school closure in my initial application?

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Yes, definitely mention it. There's usually a section where you can explain your circumstances. Be clear that you were a student when the school closed and that you had qualifying wages before enrollment.

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This is so frustrating! Schools shouldn't be able to just close without warning like this. My cousin went through the same thing with a beauty school last year and it was a nightmare dealing with the bureaucracy.

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Did your cousin end up getting benefits? I'm worried they're going to deny me because I was technically a student when this happened.

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She did eventually get approved but it took months and she had to appeal the initial denial. The key was proving she had worked before school and was ready to work again.

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One more thing to consider - if your school closure affected your ability to complete a training program, you might also be eligible for Trade Adjustment Assistance or other federal programs. It's worth looking into all your options.

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I hadn't heard of Trade Adjustment Assistance. Is that through Washington ESD too?

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It's a federal program but you apply through your local WorkSource office. It's for people whose jobs or training were affected by trade issues, but school closures sometimes qualify.

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Whatever you do, make sure you keep all your documentation organized. Washington ESD loves to ask for the same paperwork multiple times, and if you can't provide it quickly, your claim gets delayed even more.

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That's good advice. I'll make copies of everything and keep it all in one folder.

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Also scan everything to your computer or phone. That way you can email documents quickly if they ask for them.

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Has anyone dealt with the job search requirements when you're a displaced student? Like, do you have to look for jobs in your field or can you apply anywhere?

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You have to conduct a genuine job search, but it doesn't have to be limited to your training field. Washington ESD expects you to look for work you're qualified for, which includes jobs based on your previous work experience.

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That makes sense. I guess I'll be looking for jobs similar to what I did before school, plus maybe entry-level positions in healthcare since I did complete some training.

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I'm going through something similar with my coding bootcamp that just shut down. Been trying to reach Washington ESD for 2 weeks with no luck. The online system doesn't have a good way to explain the situation.

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You should try that Claimyr service I mentioned earlier. It's specifically designed to help people get through to Washington ESD agents when the regular system isn't working. Really helped me when I had a complex situation to explain.

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I'll check that out. At this point I'm willing to try anything to get through to someone who can help.

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Don't give up if they deny you initially. A lot of student situations get denied at first because the system doesn't understand the circumstances. The appeals process exists for exactly these kinds of cases.

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How long does the appeals process take? I really can't afford to wait months for this to get sorted out.

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Appeals usually take 4-6 weeks, but you can request an expedited hearing if you can show financial hardship. Make sure you file the appeal within 30 days of any denial notice.

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Also check if your school closure entitles you to any tuition refunds or loan forgiveness. That might help with your financial situation while you're waiting for the unemployment claim to process.

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Good idea. I paid with a combination of cash and loans, so I should definitely look into what I can recover.

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Contact your state's higher education agency too. They sometimes have emergency funds for students affected by school closures.

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The whole system is set up to discourage people from applying. Half the time they deny claims hoping people won't appeal. Don't let them intimidate you - you have rights as someone whose school closed unexpectedly.

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Thanks for the encouragement. I was starting to feel like maybe I didn't deserve benefits since I was technically a student.

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You absolutely deserve benefits if you meet the qualifications. The fact that you were bettering yourself through education shouldn't be held against you.

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One last tip - when you do get through to Washington ESD, ask them to put notes in your file about the school closure and your eligibility. That way if other agents review your case later, they'll understand the situation without you having to explain it again.

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That's really smart. I'll make sure to ask for that when I talk to someone.

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Also get the name and ID number of whoever you talk to. Sometimes it helps to reference specific conversations if issues come up later.

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