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Yuki Kobayashi

Can you get Washington ESD unemployment if your job is seasonal?

I work landscaping April through October and my employer lays everyone off for the winter months every year. This is my second year with them and I'm wondering if I can file for unemployment during the off-season? I heard there's different rules for seasonal workers but I'm not sure what they are. Has anyone dealt with this situation before? I need to know if it's worth applying or if seasonal workers get automatically denied.

Yes, seasonal workers can definitely get unemployment benefits in Washington! The key is whether your employer pays into the unemployment insurance system. Most legitimate seasonal employers do pay into it. You should file as soon as your season ends.

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That's good to know! Do I need to do anything special when I file or just apply like anyone else?

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Just file normally through the Washington ESD website. Make sure you indicate that you expect to return to the same employer next season.

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I've been doing seasonal construction for 5 years and get unemployment every winter. Never had any issues as long as I keep up with my weekly claims and job search requirements.

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Wait, do I still have to look for work if I know I'm going back to my same job in spring?

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Yes, you still need to do job searches even if you plan to return. Washington ESD requires it for all claimants unless you're on standby status.

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Actually, if your employer puts you on standby status, you don't need to search for work. But most seasonal employers don't bother with that paperwork.

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I tried calling Washington ESD last year about this exact question and could never get through to anyone. The phone system is absolutely useless - I'd sit on hold for hours and then get disconnected. If you need to talk to someone about your specific situation, I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that actually gets you connected to Washington ESD representatives. They have a video demo at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ showing how it works.

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Never heard of that service before. Does it actually work or is it some kind of scam?

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It's legit - they somehow get you through the Washington ESD phone queue. I used it twice last year when I had issues with my seasonal claim.

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Might be worth trying if I run into problems. The Washington ESD phone system is notorious for being impossible to reach.

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SEASONAL WORKERS GET SCREWED BY THE SYSTEM ALL THE TIME!!! I've seen so many people get denied because Washington ESD doesn't understand how seasonal employment works. They treat you like you quit your job instead of being laid off temporarily.

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That's not accurate. Seasonal layoffs are legitimate reasons for unemployment benefits as long as it's documented properly.

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Tell that to my neighbor who got denied twice before finally getting approved. Washington ESD is a nightmare to deal with.

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same situation here, work at a ski resort and get laid off every spring. always been able to collect unemployment no problem

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Good to hear! Did you have to provide any special documentation when you first applied?

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nope just filed online like normal. my employer already had it set up in their system that we're seasonal layoffs

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The important thing to remember is that Washington ESD looks at whether you're available and able to work. Even though you're seasonal, you need to be genuinely available for other work during your off-season. If you go on vacation for three months, that could affect your eligibility.

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So I can't travel during the winter while collecting unemployment? That seems harsh.

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You can travel, but you need to be available for work interviews and able to start a job if offered one. Extended absences where you're not available could be problematic.

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I usually take a week or two vacation in winter but make sure I'm back and available. Never had issues with that.

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Check if your employer is required to give you a separation notice. Some seasonal employers try to avoid paying unemployment by claiming workers quit instead of being laid off.

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How would I know if they're trying to do that? My boss just told us we're done for the season.

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When you file your claim, Washington ESD will contact your employer. If they dispute it, you'll get a notice and can appeal. Most legitimate seasonal employers don't fight it.

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I work seasonal retail and have collected unemployment between seasons for three years straight. The key is filing immediately after your last day of work. Don't wait around thinking about it.

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How quickly do they usually approve seasonal claims? I need to know for budgeting purposes.

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Mine usually get approved within 2-3 weeks if there are no issues. Sometimes faster if your employer doesn't contest it.

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Question about the waiting week - do seasonal workers have to do the waiting week every time they file a new claim? I get laid off twice a year (spring and fall) and wasn't sure if the waiting week applies each time.

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Washington eliminated the waiting week a few years ago, so you don't have to worry about that anymore. You can get paid for your first week if you're eligible.

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Oh that's right, I forgot they changed that rule. That makes it much better for seasonal workers.

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Make sure you understand the base period requirements. If you only worked one season, you might not have enough wages in your base period to qualify. But if you worked previous seasons or had other jobs, you should be fine.

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This is my second year with this employer. Would that be enough wages to qualify?

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Probably, but it depends on how much you earned. Washington ESD looks at your highest quarter earnings in the base period. If you made decent wages last season, you should qualify.

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I had a friend who worked seasonal fishing and got unemployment every winter until he found year-round work. The process was pretty straightforward once he figured out the system.

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Did he have to deal with any complications or was it smooth sailing?

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First year was a bit confusing because he didn't know about the job search requirements, but after that it was routine.

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The job search thing is annoying when you know you're going back to seasonal work. I usually apply to a few indoor jobs just to meet the requirements, even though I know I won't take them because I prefer outdoor seasonal work.

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Is that okay to do? Seems like you're not really looking for work if you know you won't take the jobs.

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As long as you're genuinely applying and would consider the job if it was a good fit, I think it's fine. The requirement is to search, not necessarily to take any job offered.

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Whatever you do, don't wait until you're desperate to file. I made that mistake my first year and missed out on several weeks of benefits because I procrastinated.

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Good advice! I'll file as soon as my last day ends. Do I need to wait until I actually finish work or can I file before my last day?

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Wait until after your last day of work. Filing before you're actually unemployed can cause problems with your claim.

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Just wanted to follow up on the Claimyr thing I mentioned earlier - I ended up using them again this week when I had questions about my benefit year ending. Got through to Washington ESD in like 10 minutes instead of spending all day trying to call. Definitely worth it if you run into any issues with your seasonal claim.

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How much does something like that cost? I'm always skeptical of services that charge to help with government benefits.

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I think it's pretty reasonable for what you get - basically guaranteed contact with Washington ESD when you need it. Better than wasting entire days trying to get through on your own.

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The most important thing is to be honest on your application. Don't try to hide that it's seasonal work or make it sound like something it's not. Washington ESD sees through that stuff and it just causes delays.

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Makes sense. I'll be completely upfront about the seasonal nature of the work when I file.

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Exactly. Transparency is always the best policy with unemployment claims.

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One thing I learned - if your employer brings you back early from layoff, you need to report that immediately. Even if it's just a few days of work, it affects your weekly claim for that week.

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Good to know! My employer sometimes calls people back for random projects during the winter.

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Yeah, just make sure you report any work when you file your weekly claim. It's better to over-report than under-report.

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I've been collecting seasonal unemployment for 8 years and the only advice I have is to keep good records. Save all your pay stubs, keep track of your job search activities, and document everything. If Washington ESD ever audits you, you'll be glad you have the paperwork.

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Thanks for the tip! I'm not great at keeping records but I'll make an effort to stay organized.

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It's worth the effort. I had a friend who got audited and had to pay back benefits because he couldn't prove his job search activities.

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Bottom line - seasonal workers absolutely can get unemployment benefits in Washington. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise. File your claim, follow the rules, and you should be fine. The system is set up to help people in exactly your situation.

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This thread has been super helpful. I feel much more confident about filing now. Thanks everyone!

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Glad we could help! Feel free to post back if you run into any issues during the process.

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