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Can I qualify for PA UC benefits during off-season periods with seasonal employment?

Just got offered what seems like a perfect seasonal job that runs from May through December each year. They've promised to rehire me annually and are matching my current hourly wage ($22.75/hr). The winters off sound amazing, but I'm worried about finances during those months. Does anyone know if I can collect unemployment during the off-season (January-April)? More importantly, will working just 7-8 months provide enough earnings to qualify me for benefits during those inactive months? This would be through a landscaping company, so the seasonal nature is legitimate due to weather conditions. I've never dealt with seasonal unemployment before, so I'm pretty confused about how it all works. Any insight would be super helpful!

yes u can file for UC during off season but u need to have enough earnings in ur base year. PA looks at the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before u file. So ur earnings during May-Dec need to be enough to qualify. I think u need like $10,000+ in the base year to get max benefits. Just make sure ur employer doesnt contest ur claim when u file in January.

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Thanks for responding! Do you know if I need to have earned a certain amount each quarter, or just overall? Based on 40 hrs a week at my rate, I should make around $25k during the work season. Is that typically enough?

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Seasonal employment is actually specifically addressed within PA's UC system. Here's what you need to know: 1. You need to have earned at least $116 per week in at least 18 weeks OR have total base year earnings of at least $1,813 to qualify for minimum benefits 2. For maximum benefits, you'd need around $14,560 in your highest quarter plus sufficient earnings in the rest of your base year 3. Your employer needs to verify that your layoff is due to seasonal nature of the work (not just a temporary layoff) 4. You still need to be able and available for work during the off-season and complete your work search activities Based on your hourly rate, if you work full time during the season, you should easily qualify. Just make sure your employer classifies you properly as seasonal at the time of layoff.

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My cousin did this for years with a roofing company. Worked Apr-Nov, collected UC Dec-Mar. Never had issues getting benefits as long as he filed right away when season ended.

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Something else to consider - make sure your employer is actually categorized as a "seasonal employer" with the state. Not all businesses that operate seasonally are officially registered as seasonal employers with PA UC. This can affect how your claim is processed. You might want to ask them about this specifically before accepting the offer. Also, just so you're prepared - your weekly benefit amount will be roughly 50% of your full-time weekly wage up to the maximum (which is around $600-650/week in 2025). So definitely factor that into your budget planning.

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I hadn't even thought about asking if they're registered as seasonal! That's a really good point. I'll definitely bring that up when I talk to them tomorrow. The benefits amount is lower than I expected, but still workable if I budget carefully during the working months.

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THE SYSTEM WILL SCREW YOU OVER!!! I did seasonal work for a pool company for 2 years and when I tried to collect the second winter they said I didn't have enough qualifying weeks because the first winter I collected "used up" some of my employment history!!! NOBODY TELLS YOU THIS UNTIL IT'S TOO LATE!!! Make sure you understand how the base year calculation works year after year!!! I had to take a crappy temp job that second winter because PA UC decided I suddenly didn't qualify even though NOTHING CHANGED with my employment!!!

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While this can happen, it's usually because of how the base year shifts. Each time you apply, PA looks at a different set of quarters. If you filed in January 2024, they'd look at Oct 2022-Sep 2023. If you file again in January 2025, they look at Oct 2023-Sep 2024. So your work pattern has to consistently provide enough eligible quarters year after year. It's not that you "used up" history, but rather that the timeline window shifted.

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I've been stuck in this loop trying to get someone on the phone at UC to answer questions about my seasonal work situation for WEEKS. Constant busy signals or being disconnected after waiting for hours. If you're facing this same issue, I finally found a solution using Claimyr (claimyr.com). They got me connected to a PA UC rep in less than an hour when I'd been trying for days. They have a video that shows how it works: https://youtu.be/CEPETxZdo9E?si=WL1ZzVZWG3KiHrg2 I was skeptical, but it seriously saved me so much frustration and I finally got my seasonal employment questions answered. The rep clarified exactly how my base year would be calculated for my situation.

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does that actually work? i might try it cause im in a similar situation. been trying to get thru for days to ask about my seasonal construction job

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It worked for me! Got through to someone who actually explained everything clearly about how my seasonal benefits would work. Way better than trying to figure it out from their confusing website.

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btw dont forget u HAVE TO SEARCH FOR WORK during ur off season. like u gotta apply to 2 jobs each week n keep records. even tho everyone knows ur going back to ur seasonal job u still gotta do the job search. my friend got denied benies cuz he didnt do this thinking it was dumb since he was def going back to his job in spring.

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Oh wow, that's good to know! I assumed since I'd be going back to the same employer, I might be exempt from the job search. Is there any way around that requirement for seasonal workers?

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Unfortunately no, PA doesn't have a job search exemption specifically for seasonal workers who have a return date. You'll need to complete and document your work search activities even if you have a definite return date to your seasonal employer. The only exceptions are for certain union members with hiring halls, those on a temporary layoff of less than 15 days, or people in approved training programs.

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i did seasonal work for 5 years with a holiday store. one thing nobody mentioned is that if u work ANY hours during a week u have to report it and it can reduce ur benefits or make u get nothing that week. so if ur thinking about picking up odd jobs during winter just be aware that it impacts ur UC. sometimes not worth it unless u get enough hours

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That's a really good point. I was considering doing some snow removal work during the winter when available, but I guess I need to calculate if it's worth potentially reducing benefits. Is there any amount I can earn without it affecting my UC payment?

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Yes, PA has a partial benefit credit (PBC) which is 30% of your weekly benefit rate. You can earn up to that amount without reducing your benefits. Anything over that gets deducted dollar-for-dollar from your payment. So if your weekly benefit is $500, your PBC would be $150 - meaning you could earn up to $150/week without reducing your UC payment.

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My wife does seasonal work at an amusement park and gets UC every winter. Never had issues qualifying. Make sure u have all ur paystubs organized cause sometimes they ask for proof of wages if somethings missing from their system.

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Thanks for sharing your experience! That's reassuring. I'll definitely keep all my pay documentation organized.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful info! I feel much better about accepting this position now. Just to summarize what I've learned: 1. I should qualify for benefits given my expected earnings 2. I need to check if the employer is officially registered as seasonal 3. I still need to do weekly work search activities during the off-season 4. I need to be aware of how the base year calculation shifts year-to-year 5. I can earn some supplemental income up to 30% of my benefit without reduction Going to call the employer tomorrow to ask about their seasonal registration status and confirm the exact start/end dates. Thanks again for all the advice!

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Just make sure everything is documented!!! Get the seasonal status IN WRITING and save ALL paystubs!!! Don't trust the UC system to have accurate records!

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One more thing to keep in mind - when you file your initial claim in January, make sure you select "seasonal layoff" as your reason for separation rather than just "lack of work" or "temporary layoff." This helps ensure your claim gets processed correctly and your employer won't be penalized with higher UI taxes since seasonal layoffs are expected. Also, if your employer gives you any kind of written notice about your expected return date (even if it's approximate), keep that documentation. It can help if there are any questions about the legitimacy of your seasonal status. Good luck with the new job! Seasonal work can be great if you plan your finances right during the working months.

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Great thread! I'm actually in a similar situation - just got offered seasonal work with a Christmas tree farm that runs October through December. Reading through all these responses has been super helpful. One question I didn't see addressed: what happens if the employer calls you back earlier than expected? Like if they need you for a few weeks in March for prep work before the main season starts? Does that affect your UC claim or do you just report those weeks as working? Also, has anyone dealt with seasonal employers who pay differently during the season (like overtime vs regular hours)? I'm wondering if inconsistent weekly earnings during the work period affects the benefit calculation. Thanks for all the detailed info everyone - definitely saving this thread for reference!

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Great questions! For early callbacks, you just report those weeks as working when you certify. Your UC claim doesn't get "cancelled" - it just gets paused while you're working. You can resume collecting once that temporary work ends. Just make sure to report the work honestly. As for inconsistent weekly earnings during the season - PA uses your total base year earnings divided by weeks worked to calculate your average weekly wage for benefit purposes. So whether you made $800 one week and $1200 the next doesn't matter as much as your overall quarterly totals. The overtime actually helps boost your total earnings which could increase your benefit amount. Christmas tree farms are definitely legitimate seasonal businesses, so you should be in good shape! Just document everything like others mentioned.

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is timing your initial claim filing. Don't wait until you're desperate for money to file - submit your claim as soon as your seasonal layoff begins (like the first week of January in your case). There's typically a one-week waiting period before you can receive benefits, and the whole process can take 2-3 weeks to get your first payment. Also, consider setting up direct deposit immediately when you file. Paper checks can get delayed or lost, especially during winter weather. I learned this the hard way my first year doing seasonal work. One more tip: during your work season, try to set aside at least 20-30% of your earnings for the off-season. Even with UC benefits, you'll likely have a income gap since benefits are typically 40-50% of your working wage. Having some savings as a buffer makes the whole arrangement much less stressful. Sounds like you've got a solid plan though - that wage rate should definitely get you qualifying earnings for UC!

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This is really solid advice about timing! I definitely wouldn't have thought about filing immediately when the season ends. The direct deposit tip is especially helpful - I can imagine how stressful it would be waiting for a check in the mail when you're already dealing with no income. The 20-30% savings recommendation makes a lot of sense too. Even though the UC benefits help bridge the gap, having that extra cushion would make the whole situation much more manageable. Thanks for the practical tips!

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This is such a comprehensive thread - thank you all for sharing your experiences! I'm actually considering a similar seasonal position with a landscaping company, but I'm curious about one specific scenario that hasn't been covered yet. What happens if you get injured during the working season and can't complete the full seasonal period? Like if you're supposed to work May-December but get hurt in September and can't return? Would you still qualify for UC benefits during the off-season, or would the shortened work period affect your eligibility? Also, has anyone dealt with employers who offer "skeleton crew" work during the off-season (like snow removal or equipment maintenance)? I'm wondering if accepting occasional winter work from your seasonal employer creates any complications with your UC claim status. The information about documenting everything and getting the seasonal status in writing is gold - definitely going to make sure I have all that paperwork sorted before accepting any offer!

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Great questions about injury scenarios! If you get injured during the work season, you'd typically need to file for workers' compensation first if it's work-related. Once that's resolved and you're released from medical care, you could potentially file for UC if you're able and available to work but your seasonal job has ended. The shortened work period might affect your total earnings but if you still meet the minimum qualifying requirements, you should be okay. For the "skeleton crew" winter work - this gets tricky. If your employer offers you any work during your UC claim period, you're generally required to accept it or risk being denied benefits for refusing suitable work. However, if it's just occasional days here and there, you'd report those earnings when you certify and they'd reduce your weekly benefit accordingly (like others mentioned with the partial benefit credit). Just make sure any winter work arrangement is clearly defined upfront so you know what to expect. The key is being upfront with UC about your entire employment situation when you file. They need the complete picture to process your claim correctly!

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Something I haven't seen mentioned yet is the importance of understanding Pennsylvania's "able and available" requirements during your off-season. Even though you have a definite return date to your seasonal employer, PA UC still requires you to be genuinely available for other work if offered. This means you can't, for example, leave the state for an extended vacation during your UC claim period without potentially jeopardizing your benefits. You need to be reachable and able to accept suitable work offers within a reasonable distance from your home. I learned this when a friend of mine doing seasonal work with a resort tried to spend February in Florida visiting family. UC found out (somehow they always do!) and suspended his benefits until he returned and could prove he was actively seeking work in PA again. Also, keep in mind that "suitable work" determination can change over time. Initially, you might only be required to seek work similar to your seasonal job, but as your claim period extends, PA may expect you to consider a broader range of employment opportunities. This is another reason why having some savings built up during your working season is so crucial - you want options if UC decides to get strict about job search requirements. The seasonal work arrangement can definitely work well financially, but make sure you understand all the ongoing obligations that come with collecting benefits during the off-season!

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This is such an important point that I wish I had known earlier! The "able and available" requirement is something they don't really explain clearly when you first apply. I made a similar mistake my first winter - thought I could take a long trip to visit family since I knew I was going back to my seasonal job. Ended up having to cut the trip short when I realized it could affect my benefits. The part about "suitable work" expanding over time is especially crucial. I've heard of people getting pressured to take retail jobs by March/April even when they had landscaping jobs lined up for May. It's like they expect you to take anything available rather than wait for your seasonal position to restart. Do you know if there's any way to get advance approval for short trips during the off-season, or is it basically just a risk you have to take? I'm planning to be very careful about this but would love to visit family for a week or two if possible.

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For short trips during your claim period, you can technically travel as long as you can still fulfill your UC obligations. The key is being able to take calls from potential employers and return quickly if offered suitable work. Some people report their travel plans to UC in advance by calling the service center, but there's no formal "approval" process. A week or two should generally be okay if you: 1. Keep your phone on and reachable 2. Continue filing your weekly certifications on time 3. Can return within 24-48 hours if offered work 4. Don't miss any required appointments or interviews The problem my friend ran into was being gone for over a month and basically being unreachable. UC sees that as not being genuinely available for work. That said, every situation is different and UC can be unpredictable about enforcement. If you do travel, keep documentation showing you were still actively seeking work and remained available. Some people even apply to remote-friendly jobs during travel to show continued job search activity. The safest approach is probably keeping any trips short (under 2 weeks) and staying within driving distance of PA. Not ideal, but better than risking your benefits!

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This is really helpful clarification about travel during UC claims! I appreciate the specific guidelines about staying reachable and being able to return quickly. The 24-48 hour return window makes sense - that's definitely manageable for visiting family within driving distance. One follow-up question: when you mention applying to remote-friendly jobs during travel to show continued job search activity, does that count toward the required 2 weekly job applications? Or do those need to be local PA jobs? I'm thinking it might be smart to mix in some remote applications anyway since they're becoming more common, but want to make sure I'm meeting the requirements properly. The documentation tip is great too - I'll definitely keep records of any job search activities and communication attempts if I do end up traveling. Better to be over-prepared than risk any issues with the claim. Thanks for sharing these practical insights!

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Remote job applications definitely count toward your weekly work search requirements in PA! The state recognizes that remote work is legitimate employment, so those applications are just as valid as local ones. You actually don't need to restrict yourself to only PA-based positions - you can apply to jobs anywhere as long as you could realistically perform the work from your location. That said, it's probably smart to mix remote applications with some local ones, especially early in your claim period. UC counselors sometimes look more favorably on claims where people are pursuing diverse opportunities rather than only one type of work. Just make sure you're documenting everything properly - company name, position title, date applied, and method of application. For remote jobs, I'd recommend noting that it's "remote work" in your records so it's clear why the employer location might be outside PA. The key thing is showing genuine effort to find work while maintaining your availability for local opportunities too. Remote applications can actually strengthen your case since they show you're being proactive about expanding your job search beyond just waiting for seasonal work to resume!

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This is super helpful! I didn't realize remote applications were treated equally to local ones. That definitely opens up more opportunities during the off-season. I really like your suggestion to mix both types - it shows you're casting a wide net while still being available for local work. The documentation tip about noting "remote work" in records is smart too, helps explain why you might be applying to companies in other states. Thanks for all this detailed info - I feel much more prepared to handle the job search requirements now!

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This is an incredibly thorough discussion! I'm in a similar boat - just got offered seasonal work with a Christmas tree farm and golf course maintenance company that would run March through November. Reading through everyone's experiences has been so valuable. One thing I'm curious about that I don't think was fully addressed: how does PA handle it if you have TWO seasonal employers? Like if I work the tree farm October-December and the golf course April-September, with gaps in between where I'd need UC? Does having multiple seasonal employers make the base year calculations more complicated, or does it actually help since you'd have more total earnings? Also, I noticed someone mentioned keeping paystubs organized - does anyone have tips on the best way to track everything? I'm thinking a simple spreadsheet with dates, hours, and earnings might work, but wondering if there's anything specific PA UC looks for in terms of documentation. The advice about filing immediately when laid off and setting up direct deposit is gold - definitely going to remember that. And the point about staying "able and available" during the off-season is something I hadn't considered but makes total sense. Thanks everyone for sharing such detailed real-world experiences!

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Having multiple seasonal employers can actually work in your favor! More total earnings throughout the year means you're more likely to meet the minimum requirements and potentially qualify for higher benefit amounts. The base year calculation just looks at your total qualifying wages from all employers during those four quarters, so it doesn't matter if it comes from one job or several. For documentation, I'd definitely recommend a spreadsheet but also scan/photograph all your paystubs and store them digitally. Include columns for: employer name, pay period dates, gross wages, hours worked, and any deductions. PA UC sometimes asks for wage verification if their records don't match what you report, so having everything organized makes that process much smoother. One thing to watch with multiple seasonal employers - make sure the timing works out so you're not turning down available work from one employer while collecting UC. Like if your golf course wants to call you back early in March but you're still collecting benefits, you'd generally need to accept that work or risk your claim being affected. The gaps between your different seasonal jobs (like January-March and December) should be perfect for UC claims as long as your total earnings meet the requirements. Sounds like a great setup if you can manage the scheduling!

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm actually considering a seasonal position with a ski resort that would run December through March, so basically the opposite timing of most people here. One question I haven't seen addressed: does the timing of when your seasonal work occurs affect your UC eligibility? Like would working winter months and needing benefits during summer create any different considerations compared to the typical spring/summer work with winter benefits that most people are discussing? Also, has anyone dealt with seasonal employers that require you to reapply each year rather than guaranteeing rehire? I'm wondering if that affects how UC views the "seasonal" nature of the layoff, or if it's still considered legitimate seasonal employment even without a guaranteed return position. The advice about documenting everything and checking if the employer is registered as seasonal has been super valuable - definitely going to verify that before accepting. And all the tips about job search requirements and the "able and available" rules are things I never would have thought about otherwise. Thanks for such a comprehensive discussion!

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Great questions about winter seasonal work! The timing shouldn't affect your UC eligibility at all - PA's system works the same regardless of which months you work versus when you collect benefits. Your base year calculation will still be based on the same four-quarter lookback period, just shifted to whenever you file your claim. The key difference with winter work is that you'll be filing for UC in April instead of January, so your base year quarters will be different. As long as your December-March earnings (plus any other work in your base year) meet the minimum requirements, you should be fine. Regarding employers that require reapplication each year - this is actually pretty common with seasonal businesses and doesn't usually affect UC's determination. What matters is that the layoff is due to seasonal business conditions, not whether you're guaranteed to return. Ski resorts, beach businesses, farms, etc. often can't guarantee exact staffing needs year to year due to weather, business conditions, etc. Just make sure when you're laid off in March that it's properly coded as "seasonal layoff" rather than "terminated" or "quit." The documentation advice definitely applies to your situation too - keep all paystubs and get any seasonal employment status in writing from HR. Winter seasonal work can be great since you avoid the summer heat! Just plan your finances accordingly for the longer off-season period.

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This has been such an informative thread! I'm actually in a slightly different situation - I've been offered a seasonal position with a marina that runs April through October, but they also do some boat storage and winterization work November through December on an as-needed basis. I'm wondering how PA UC handles situations where your "off-season" isn't completely clean-cut? Like if I'm officially laid off in October but they occasionally call me for a day or two of work in November/December, does that complicate my UC claim? Should I decline those occasional winter calls to keep my benefits simple, or is it better to take the extra income and just report it properly? Also, has anyone dealt with seasonal employers who pay differently for off-season work? The marina mentioned they pay a lower hourly rate for the winter storage work since it's less skilled than the regular season boat maintenance. I'm not sure if mixing different pay rates from the same employer affects benefit calculations. All the advice about documentation and timing has been super helpful - definitely going to make sure I understand their seasonal registration status and get everything in writing before accepting!

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Great question about the mixed seasonal work situation! You definitely want to take those occasional winter calls if offered - declining available work from your employer could jeopardize your UC benefits since you're required to accept suitable work. The key is just reporting it properly when you certify each week. For the occasional day or two of work, you'd report those earnings and they'd be deducted from your weekly benefit using the partial benefit credit system others mentioned. As long as you're earning less than your weekly benefit amount plus the 30% PBC, you'll still get some UC payment that week. The different pay rates shouldn't complicate your benefit calculation since PA looks at your total base year earnings regardless of which specific jobs or pay rates contributed to that total. The winter storage work would just add to your overall qualifying wages. Just make sure to keep detailed records of all the different types of work - regular season marina work vs. occasional winter storage work - with dates, hours, and pay rates clearly documented. This helps if UC ever needs to verify your employment pattern or if there are questions about the seasonal nature of your primary layoff. The mixed seasonal arrangement is actually pretty common with marinas, landscaping companies, and similar businesses. UC is used to handling these situations as long as everything is reported honestly!

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a similar situation with a potential seasonal groundskeeping job at a university that runs March-November. One thing I wanted to add based on my research - make sure to ask your employer about their specific layoff procedures and timing. Some seasonal employers do "rolling layoffs" where they reduce staff gradually over a few weeks rather than laying everyone off on the same date. This can affect when you should file your UC claim. You want to file as soon as YOUR individual layoff becomes effective, not necessarily when the "season" officially ends. Also, I called PA UC directly (after waiting forever) and learned that if you're rehired by the same seasonal employer within 10 weeks of your layoff, it's considered a "callback" rather than new employment. This doesn't restart your benefit year clock, which can be helpful for maintaining eligibility in subsequent years. One more tip - if your seasonal employer offers any kind of end-of-season bonus or vacation payout, make sure you understand when that gets paid and how it might affect your initial UC claim filing. Sometimes those payments can delay when you're eligible to start collecting. The seasonal work setup can definitely work financially with proper planning! Thanks everyone for sharing so much practical experience.

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