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Washington ESD seasonal unemployment - which is true about filing claims?

I work in landscaping and get laid off every winter when the season ends. My supervisor told me some things about seasonal unemployment benefits but I'm not sure which is true about filing with Washington ESD. Can seasonal workers like me file for regular UI benefits during our off-season? Or do we need special seasonal worker status? I've heard conflicting info about whether we qualify the same as other workers or if there are different rules. Anyone know the real deal with Washington ESD and seasonal work?

Yes, seasonal workers can absolutely file for regular unemployment benefits with Washington ESD during your off-season! You don't need any special seasonal status - you file just like any other worker who gets laid off. The key is that your layoff has to be through no fault of your own, which seasonal layoffs typically are.

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That's a relief! I was worried I'd have to find some special seasonal program or something.

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Same situation here with construction work. Filed my claim in November and it went through fine.

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The important thing to understand is that seasonal unemployment is just regular unemployment that happens predictably. Washington ESD treats it the same as any other layoff - you need to meet the wage requirements from your base period and be available for work. The main difference is you'll probably go through this cycle every year.

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What about the job search requirements? Do seasonal workers have to look for work outside their normal industry?

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Good question! You still need to do job searches, but they can be reasonable for your skills and experience. If you're a landscaper, you don't have to apply for office jobs, but you should look for any available landscaping or similar outdoor work.

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I've been dealing with Washington ESD for years as a seasonal worker and the biggest truth is that getting through to actually FILE your claim can be impossible. Last year I spent weeks trying to reach someone because my online application kept glitching. Finally found this service called Claimyr that actually got me connected to a real person at Washington ESD. Check out claimyr.com - they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ that shows exactly how it works.

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How much does that cost though? I'm already unemployed, don't want to spend money I don't have.

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It's worth it when you're stuck and need to actually get your claim processed. Way better than wasting hours calling and getting hung up on.

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The truth about seasonal unemployment is that it's PREDICTABLE but Washington ESD still makes you jump through all the same hoops every single time. Like yes, we know I'm going to be laid off in December and rehired in March, but I still have to prove I'm 'actively seeking work' even though everyone knows I'll be back at the same job.

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That's just how the system works though. They can't make exceptions based on assumptions about rehiring.

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I get it but it's still frustrating to pretend like I'm permanently unemployed when it's obviously temporary.

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One thing that's definitely true - make sure you file your claim as soon as you're laid off! Don't wait thinking you need to be unemployed for a certain amount of time first. Washington ESD benefits are effective from the Sunday of the week you file, so waiting just costs you money.

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Oh good point! I was planning to wait a week or two to see if any winter work came up.

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Don't wait! File immediately and if you get work later you just stop claiming. But you can't backdate to get those missed weeks.

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Another truth about seasonal unemployment - your benefit amount is based on wages from your 'base period' which is usually the first 4 of the last 5 completed quarters before you file. For seasonal workers this can sometimes work in your favor if you had a really good season, or against you if you had a slow year.

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How do you figure out what your base period wages were? Is that on the Washington ESD website somewhere?

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You can see it when you file your claim online, or if you're having trouble accessing your account, that's another reason to call Washington ESD directly.

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been doing seasonal work for 15 years - the real truth is that some seasonal workers think they can't file but that's wrong. as long as you worked enough and earned enough wages you qualify just like anyone else. Washington ESD doesn't care if your layoff was seasonal or not

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What if you work for the same company every season? Does that affect anything?

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nope doesn't matter. layoff is a layoff whether you get rehired later or not

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The hardest part about seasonal unemployment isn't the rules - it's actually getting your claim processed when Washington ESD is swamped with other seasonal workers all filing at the same time. Winter layoffs mean everyone's calling in November and December when the phone lines are already busy.

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This is so true! I tried calling for two weeks straight last December and never got through.

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That's exactly why I ended up using Claimyr last season. Sometimes you just need to get connected when the regular phone system is impossible.

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What's true about seasonal unemployment is that it's TEMPORARY but the bureaucracy treats it like permanent job loss. You have to file weekly claims, do job searches, report any work - all for a situation where everyone knows you'll be back to work in a few months. It's designed for people who lost their jobs permanently.

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I mean, the system has to treat everyone the same though. They can't have different rules for different types of unemployment.

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True but it does feel like a waste of everyone's time when you're clearly going back to the same job.

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One thing I learned the hard way - if you're seasonal and you know you'll be laid off around the same time every year, start gathering your paperwork early. Get your wage statements organized, make sure you remember your PIN for your Washington ESD account, and don't wait until the last minute to deal with any account issues.

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Good advice! I should probably check my account now before I actually need it.

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Yeah and if you find out your account is locked or something, give yourself time to fix it. Or use one of those services that can get you through to Washington ESD faster.

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The truth is seasonal unemployment benefits work exactly like regular unemployment - same application process, same weekly claims, same job search requirements. The only difference is YOU know it's temporary but the system doesn't care about that distinction.

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So there's no special 'seasonal worker' category or anything like that?

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Nope! You're just an unemployed person like anyone else as far as Washington ESD is concerned.

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been through this process 8 times now with seasonal layoffs. biggest truth - don't assume anything will be the same as last year. washington esd changes their systems, their requirements, their phone numbers. check everything fresh each time you need to file

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That's annoying but probably good advice. Government systems are always changing.

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Especially their website! Seems like they redesign it every year and nothing is where you expect it to be.

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What's true about seasonal unemployment is that even though it's predictable, you still have to prove you're 'able and available' for work. That means if someone offered you a landscaping job in January, you'd have to take it even though you know your regular job will be back in spring.

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Wait really? I thought seasonal workers could just wait for their regular job to start back up.

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Nope! You have to be genuinely available for work, not just waiting for your specific seasonal job to resume.

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The most important truth about seasonal unemployment - document everything! Keep records of when you were laid off, any communication from your employer about return dates, and especially keep track of your job search activities. Washington ESD can audit your claim and you need to prove you followed all the rules.

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Do they actually audit seasonal workers though? Seems like it would be obvious we're following the rules.

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They can audit anyone! Better safe than sorry - just keep good records.

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honestly the biggest truth about seasonal unemployment is that the process is exactly the same but way more frustrating because you KNOW you'll be working again soon but still have to pretend like you're permanently unemployed and actively seeking any job. makes no sense but that's the system

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At least we get benefits though! Some states make it really hard for seasonal workers.

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true, washington is pretty good about it compared to other places i've lived

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Quick tip for anyone filing seasonal unemployment claims - if you run into problems with your application or need to speak to someone at Washington ESD, don't just keep calling the main number over and over. There are services like Claimyr that can actually get you through to a real person without spending hours on hold. Worth checking out their website if you get stuck.

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Is that legit though? Sounds almost too good to be true that someone can just get you through to Washington ESD.

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I was skeptical too but it actually worked when I tried it last winter. Sometimes you just need to talk to a real person and the regular phone system is impossible.

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