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Emma Wilson

Can you be denied unemployment for being fired from your job in Washington?

I got terminated from my warehouse job last week after working there for 2 years. My supervisor said it was for performance issues but honestly I think they just wanted to get rid of me because I complained about safety violations. I'm planning to file for unemployment but I'm worried Washington ESD will deny my claim since I was fired instead of laid off. Does anyone know if you can still get UI benefits if you were terminated? I really need these benefits to pay my rent while I look for another job.

QuantumLeap

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You can definitely get unemployment benefits even if you were fired, but it depends on WHY you were fired. Washington ESD looks at whether you were terminated for 'misconduct connected with work.' If you were fired for poor performance, attendance issues, or inability to do the job (but not willful misconduct), you should still qualify for benefits.

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Emma Wilson

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That's good to know! What exactly counts as misconduct though? I was never written up or anything, they just said my performance wasn't meeting expectations.

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QuantumLeap

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Misconduct usually involves things like theft, violence, intentional violation of company policy, or willful disregard of employer interests. Poor performance alone typically isn't misconduct unless you were deliberately doing bad work.

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Malik Johnson

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I went through this exact situation 6 months ago. Got fired from my retail job for being late too many times. Washington ESD approved my claim because they determined it wasn't willful misconduct - I had transportation issues that were documented. The key is being honest on your application about why you were terminated.

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How long did it take for them to make a decision on your claim?

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Malik Johnson

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About 3 weeks. My former employer didn't contest it though, which probably helped speed things up.

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Emma Wilson

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Thanks everyone. I'm going to file my claim this week and be completely honest about the circumstances. Hopefully since I was never formally disciplined and it was just performance-related they'll approve it.

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QuantumLeap

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That's the right approach. Make sure you also mention the safety concerns you raised - that context could actually help your case.

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Omar Hassan

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Good luck! Most people who get fired for performance issues do get approved as long as they weren't doing anything intentionally wrong.

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Chloe Taylor

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I got denied initially when I was fired but I appealed and won. The appeal hearing was actually pretty straightforward - I just explained my side of the story and provided documentation. Don't give up if you get an initial denial.

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Emma Wilson

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What kind of documentation did you provide for your appeal?

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Chloe Taylor

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I had emails showing I was trying to improve my performance, my employee handbook, and witness statements from coworkers. Anything that shows you weren't being willfully negligent helps.

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ShadowHunter

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Washington ESD is pretty fair about these cases. My brother got fired for 'attitude problems' and still got his benefits because it wasn't considered misconduct. The employer has to prove you did something really bad on purpose.

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Diego Ramirez

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Yeah they put the burden of proof on the employer to show it was misconduct. Most companies don't even bother fighting it unless it was something serious like theft.

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Emma Wilson

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That makes me feel better about filing. I definitely didn't do anything dishonest or intentionally harmful.

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Just a heads up - your former employer will get notified when you file and they might contest your claim. Be prepared to provide your side of the story if that happens. Document everything you can remember about the termination.

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Emma Wilson

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Should I be worried if they contest it? I don't have any written documentation about my performance issues.

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Not necessarily. Lack of documentation can actually work in your favor - it suggests they didn't follow proper progressive discipline procedures.

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Sean O'Connor

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I work in HR and deal with unemployment claims regularly. Being fired absolutely does not automatically disqualify you from benefits. We only contest claims when there's clear misconduct like theft, violence, or repeatedly violating known policies after warnings.

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Emma Wilson

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Thanks for the insider perspective! That's really reassuring to hear from someone on the employer side.

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Zara Ahmed

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That's good to know. I always wondered what makes employers decide to fight these claims.

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Luca Conti

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Washington ESD has to determine if your actions rose to the level of 'misconduct connected with work.' Poor performance, inability to meet job requirements, or personality conflicts usually don't qualify as misconduct. You should be fine to file.

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Emma Wilson

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Perfect, that describes my situation exactly. I just couldn't keep up with their productivity standards.

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Nia Johnson

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Yeah, being bad at your job isn't the same as misconduct. As long as you were trying to do the work properly.

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CyberNinja

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File as soon as possible - benefits are backdated to when you file, not when you were terminated. Don't wait around worrying about whether you'll be approved. Let Washington ESD make that determination.

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Emma Wilson

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Good point! I'll file this weekend. Better to get the process started than keep delaying.

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Mateo Lopez

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Exactly. The worst they can do is say no, and then you can appeal if you disagree with their decision.

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Emma Wilson

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That's the second mention of that service. Might be worth looking into if I run into issues with my claim.

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Ethan Davis

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I've heard good things about them too. Sometimes you just need to talk to an actual person to understand what's going on with your claim.

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Yuki Tanaka

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Bottom line - being fired doesn't automatically disqualify you from unemployment benefits in Washington. File your claim, be honest about the circumstances, and let the process work. Most people in your situation get approved.

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Emma Wilson

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful advice! I feel much more confident about filing now.

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Carmen Ortiz

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Good luck with everything! Hope your claim gets approved quickly so you can focus on finding your next job.

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