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Can an employer not pay unemployment benefits in Washington?

I'm really confused about how unemployment works. My friend told me that some employers don't have to pay unemployment benefits to their workers. Is this true in Washington state? I thought all employers had to contribute to unemployment insurance. Can someone explain this to me? I'm worried because I might need to file for unemployment soon and want to make sure I'm covered.

Most employers in Washington are required to pay unemployment insurance taxes, but there are some exceptions. Generally, if you work for a company with employees, they should be paying into the system. However, independent contractors and some very small businesses might not be covered.

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How do I know if my employer is paying into the system? Is there a way to check?

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You can check your pay stubs to see if there are unemployment insurance deductions, or contact Washington ESD directly to verify your coverage.

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Yeah, most employers have to pay unemployment taxes in Washington. The main exceptions are independent contractors, some agricultural workers, and employees of very small businesses. If you're a regular W-2 employee, you should be covered.

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I'm a W-2 employee so I should be good then. Thanks for clarifying!

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What about part-time workers? Are they covered too?

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Yes, part-time W-2 employees are covered as long as they meet the minimum earnings requirements.

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I had trouble getting through to Washington ESD when I needed to verify my coverage. The phone lines are always busy. Someone mentioned a service called Claimyr that helps you get through to agents faster. You can check it out at claimyr.com - they have a demo video at https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ. Might be worth trying if you can't reach them the regular way.

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Thanks for the tip! I'll look into that if I can't get through normally.

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Never heard of that service before. Does it actually work?

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It worked for me when I was stuck trying to reach someone about my claim status. Much better than sitting on hold for hours.

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In Washington state, employers are required to pay unemployment insurance taxes for most employees. The Washington Employment Security Department (ESD) administers this program. There are specific criteria that determine coverage, including the size of the business and type of work performed.

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What happens if an employer doesn't pay their unemployment taxes? Can that affect my benefits?

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If an employer fails to pay their taxes, Washington ESD can take enforcement action against them. However, this typically wouldn't affect your eligibility for benefits if you otherwise qualify.

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ugh the whole unemployment system is so confusing... why can't they just make it simple for everyone?

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I agree, it's really complicated to understand sometimes.

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The rules exist to protect both employees and employers, but I agree the system could be clearer.

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I work for a small family business with only 3 employees. Are we covered? My boss said something about not having to pay unemployment taxes because we're so small.

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In Washington, businesses with one or more employees are generally required to pay unemployment taxes. Your boss might be mistaken about the exemption.

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I should probably check with Washington ESD directly then. Thanks for the info.

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Been working in WA for 15 years and never had an issue with unemployment coverage. As long as you're getting a regular paycheck with taxes taken out, you should be fine.

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That's reassuring to hear from someone with experience.

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Same here, never had problems with coverage when I needed to file.

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What about gig workers? Like Uber drivers or DoorDash people? Are they covered?

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Gig workers are typically classified as independent contractors and aren't covered by traditional unemployment insurance. However, there have been some changes to these rules in recent years.

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That's what I thought. The rules are different for contract workers.

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I remember during the pandemic there were special programs for independent contractors but I think those ended. Regular unemployment is just for employees, not contractors.

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Yeah, those pandemic programs were temporary. Good thing I'm a regular employee.

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Those programs helped a lot of people during covid

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If you're worried about coverage, you can always call Washington ESD to verify. Though good luck getting through - I tried calling for weeks about my claim. Finally used that Claimyr service someone mentioned earlier and got through the same day.

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Seems like a lot of people have trouble getting through to them. I'll keep that service in mind.

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The phone lines are definitely overloaded. Any way to avoid waiting on hold is worth it.

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My understanding is that Washington has pretty broad coverage for unemployment. Most regular employees should be covered unless they're in very specific exempted categories.

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That's good to know. I feel more confident about my coverage now.

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Washington is generally pretty good about worker protections compared to some other states.

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Just want to add that even if your employer hasn't been paying their unemployment taxes properly, you can still file a claim. Washington ESD will investigate and you shouldn't be penalized for your employer's mistakes.

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That's really good to know. I was worried I'd be out of luck if my employer messed up.

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Exactly right. The system is designed to protect workers even when employers don't follow the rules.

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does anyone know if church employees are covered? asking for a friend...

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Religious organizations have some exemptions, but many church employees are still covered. It depends on the specific circumstances and size of the organization.

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thanks, I'll tell my friend to check with Washington ESD directly

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The bottom line is that Washington state has pretty comprehensive unemployment coverage. If you're a regular employee getting a W-2, you're almost certainly covered. Don't worry too much about it.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful responses. I feel much better about my situation now.

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This was a helpful thread for me too. Good question to ask.

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If you do end up needing to file for unemployment, make sure you have all your employment history ready. Washington ESD will need details about your previous jobs and earnings.

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Good point. I should start gathering that information just in case.

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Yeah, having all your documentation ready makes the process much smoother.

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One more thing - if you do have trouble reaching Washington ESD by phone, I can also vouch for that Claimyr service. Saved me hours of frustration when I needed to get my adjudication issue resolved. Worth checking out at claimyr.com if you get stuck.

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Several people have mentioned that service now. Must be pretty helpful.

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I might need to try that too. The wait times are ridiculous.

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Hope this all helped clear things up for you. Washington's unemployment system has its flaws but the coverage is generally good for regular employees.

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Definitely helped a lot. Thanks to everyone who responded!

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Good luck with everything!

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