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Can I collect Washington ESD unemployment if I have 2 jobs and get fired from one?

I've been working two part-time jobs for the past 8 months - one at a retail store (about 25 hours/week) and another doing warehouse work (about 20 hours/week). Last week I got terminated from the retail job for attendance issues (called in sick too many times according to them). I still have my warehouse job but the hours don't cover all my bills. Can I file for partial unemployment benefits with Washington ESD since I lost one of my jobs? I'm confused about how this works when you still have some income coming in.

Yes, you can potentially file for partial unemployment benefits in Washington. The key is that your total weekly earnings from your remaining job need to be less than your weekly benefit amount plus $5. Washington ESD will calculate your benefits based on your earnings from both jobs during your base period.

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Thanks! Do I need to report my warehouse job income every week when I file my weekly claim?

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Yes, you'll need to report all earnings from your warehouse job on your weekly claims. Washington ESD will then reduce your benefits accordingly.

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I was in a similar situation last year. Got laid off from one job but kept my other part-time position. The tricky part is proving you were fired without misconduct from the retail job. If they say it was for attendance, Washington ESD might question whether it was misconduct.

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That's what I'm worried about. I did call in sick legitimately but didn't always have doctor's notes. Will that hurt my case?

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It could be an issue, but being sick isn't misconduct if it was legitimate. Keep any documentation you have about your illnesses.

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File your claim as soon as possible. Washington ESD will investigate the separation from your retail job through an adjudication process. They'll contact both you and your former employer to get the facts about why you were terminated. The key question is whether your attendance issues constitute willful misconduct under Washington law.

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How long does the adjudication process usually take? I need to know if I'll get benefits soon.

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Adjudication can take anywhere from 2-8 weeks depending on Washington ESD's caseload and the complexity of your case. They have to give your employer time to respond too.

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The math for partial benefits can be confusing. Washington ESD takes your weekly benefit amount, adds $5, and if your earnings from your remaining job are less than that total, you can get partial benefits. But they'll reduce your benefit dollar-for-dollar after the first $5 you earn.

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So if my weekly benefit amount would be $300 and I earn $200 from my warehouse job, I'd get $105 in benefits? ($300 + $5 - $200 = $105?

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Not quite. It's $300 - ($200 - $5) = $105. You get to keep the first $5 without reduction, then they subtract the rest from your benefit amount.

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whatever you do dont lie about why you got fired!!! washington esd will find out and then youll be in way worse trouble. if they determine it was misconduct you wont get benefits but if you lie about it they can charge you with fraud

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I wasn't planning to lie, just worried about how to explain the attendance thing properly.

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Just be honest and provide any documentation you have. If you were genuinely ill, that's different from just skipping work.

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You'll also need to meet the job search requirements even though you have a part-time job. Washington requires 3 job search activities per week unless you're on standby with your employer.

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Can I count applying for more hours at my current warehouse job as one of the job search activities?

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I don't think so, but you'd need to check with Washington ESD. They usually want applications to different employers.

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This whole system is so complicated!! I had to deal with Washington ESD last year and it was a nightmare trying to get anyone on the phone to explain anything. Took weeks just to get my first payment.

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Tell me about it. The phone system is terrible. I spent 6 hours one day just getting busy signals.

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Make sure you understand what your base period is too. Washington ESD will look at your earnings from BOTH jobs during the first four of the last five completed calendar quarters to determine your benefit amount. So having two jobs might actually help your weekly benefit calculation.

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That's good to know! I was worried having two jobs would complicate things but it sounds like it might help with the benefit amount.

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Exactly. More earnings in your base period generally means higher weekly benefits, up to the maximum.

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One thing to watch out for - if your warehouse job offers you more hours to make up for losing the retail job, you might be required to accept them. Washington ESD considers that suitable work since you're already doing that type of job.

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They haven't offered more hours yet but I'll keep that in mind. Would I have to accept any hours they offer?

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Generally yes, if it's the same type of work you're already doing and doesn't conflict with your job search requirements.

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Just wanted to follow up on the misconduct thing - attendance issues can go either way depending on the circumstances. If you had a pattern of calling in without good cause, they might consider it misconduct. But if you were genuinely sick and followed company policy for reporting absences, that's different.

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I always called in according to their policy, usually the night before or early morning. Most of the times I was actually sick but a couple times it was family emergencies.

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Family emergencies can be considered good cause too. Make sure you mention that in your claim and have any documentation if possible.

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How do you even file for partial benefits? Is it the same application as regular unemployment?

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Yes, you file the same initial claim application. Just make sure to accurately report your work separation and your continuing employment when they ask about it.

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Thanks, I might need to do this myself soon. My second job cut my hours way back.

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Don't forget you'll need to register with WorkSource too. That's required for all unemployment claimants in Washington, even if you're working part-time.

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Is WorkSource the same as the job search requirement or is that separate?

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It's related but separate. You register with WorkSource and then log your job search activities there, but you still need to do the actual searching.

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I'm dealing with something similar right now. Got let go from one job but kept my weekend job. The adjudication process is taking forever though - been 5 weeks and still no decision.

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5 weeks?! That's terrible. Have you been able to talk to anyone about the delay?

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the waiting is the worst part! even if you get approved you wont get paid for the first week (waiting week) and then it takes time for adjudication. make sure you keep filing your weekly claims even while waiting or you could lose benefits for those weeks

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Good point, I'll make sure to file every week even if I don't hear back right away.

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Yes, this is crucial. Keep filing your weekly claims throughout the adjudication process or you'll lose those weeks permanently.

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Just curious - how do they verify your earnings from your continuing job? Do they contact that employer too?

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They can contact any of your employers if needed, but mainly they'll cross-reference what you report on your weekly claims with wage records they receive from employers quarterly.

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Makes sense. So important to be accurate on those weekly reports then.

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If your retail job contests your claim and says the firing was for misconduct, you might end up in a hearing. I had to do a phone hearing last year and it was pretty stressful but manageable if you're prepared.

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What should I prepare if it comes to that? I'm already nervous about the whole process.

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Gather any documentation about your absences, company policies, communications with supervisors, anything that shows you followed procedures or had legitimate reasons.

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This thread has been really helpful! I'm in almost the exact same situation. Lost one of two part-time jobs and wasn't sure if I could even apply. Sounds like it's worth filing the claim.

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Glad it helped! I'm feeling more confident about filing now too.

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Definitely worth applying. Even if you don't get approved, there's no penalty for trying as long as you're honest about everything.

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One last tip - keep detailed records of everything. Your work schedule at the remaining job, any communications with Washington ESD, documentation about why you lost the retail job. You'll need it if there are any issues down the road.

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Great advice, thank you! I'll start gathering all my documentation before I file.

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Smart approach. Being organized from the start will save you headaches later if they need additional information.

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Thanks everyone for all the helpful information! I'm going to file my claim this week and see what happens. Fingers crossed the adjudication doesn't take too long.

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Good luck! Remember to keep filing those weekly claims no matter what.

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And if you need to actually talk to someone at Washington ESD about your case, don't forget about Claimyr. Sometimes talking to an agent directly can speed things up or clear up confusion.

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