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One last piece of advice - gather all these documents before applying for Training Benefits: 1. Program information including start/end dates, cost, and curriculum 2. Labor market information showing CDL jobs are in demand (your WorkSource office can help with this) 3. A statement explaining why your current skills aren't marketable or why you can't return to your previous occupation 4. Documentation of any barriers to employment in your previous field Having all this ready will speed up your application process significantly. And definitely work with your local WorkSource office - they have Training Benefits specialists who can review your application before you submit it.
Just want to add that when you're documenting barriers to employment in warehouse management, consider mentioning any physical limitations or age discrimination issues if they apply to your situation. I'm in my 50s and found that many warehouse jobs were either too physically demanding or employers seemed hesitant to hire older workers for management positions. The CDL field actually values experienced workers more. Also, if you're looking at local CDL schools, check if any community colleges offer CDL programs - they're often on the approved provider list and sometimes cost less than private schools. Good luck with your application!
i don't know why everyone's being so optimistic, i literally just went through this and lost my appeal. the whole system favors employers. they can just make up whatever they want and the judges believe them because they're a "business." wish i had better news but better to be prepared for the worst imo
I'm sorry you had that experience. However, it's important to note that each case is different. The specific circumstances and evidence matter tremendously. The OP has documentation and a clear policy violation by the employer, which significantly improves their chances compared to cases with minimal documentation.
I'm in a similar boat waiting for my hearing next month, so this thread is incredibly helpful! Just wanted to add that you should also prepare a brief timeline/summary of events to refer to during the hearing. When I'm nervous I tend to ramble or forget important details, so having a written outline helps me stay on track. Since you mentioned your employer changed your schedule after THREE YEARS with no notice, definitely emphasize the length of time you maintained that schedule successfully. That shows you were a reliable employee who wasn't trying to avoid work - you just couldn't accommodate an unreasonable last-minute change. Also, if you have any performance reviews, attendance records, or emails showing you were a good employee prior to this incident, those can help counter the "insubordination" narrative. The more you can show this was about an unreasonable policy change rather than you being difficult, the better. Sending you good vibes - it sounds like you have a solid case with all that documentation!
One last tip - if you're unsure about anything, it's better to ask Washington ESD directly rather than guess. Getting wrong information from online forums (even well-meaning advice) can sometimes lead to problems with your claim.
Just want to add that if you're doing graphic design contract work like the OP, make sure you understand the difference between being an independent contractor vs. an employee. If a client is controlling your hours, providing equipment, or treating you like an employee, that could affect how Washington ESD views your earnings. True independent contractor work is what allows you to collect partial unemployment benefits while working.
UPDATE: I got through to ESD finally and they confirmed remote job applications ARE valid job search activities! The person I spoke with said they've been getting this question a lot lately and there's some misinformation going around. As long as the jobs are: 1. Real positions with legitimate companies 2. Jobs you're qualified for 3. Positions you would accept if offered 4. Properly documented with company name, position, date, and method of application They count! So relieved. Thanks everyone for your help!
Thanks for sharing this update! This is really helpful for anyone else who might be getting mixed messages about remote applications. I'm in a similar situation where remote work is my best option right now, and I was starting to second-guess myself after hearing different things from different sources. It's good to know that going directly to ESD is the way to get the definitive answer. Did they mention anything about documentation requirements or any specific things to avoid when applying to remote positions?
Malik Davis
Just to close the loop on my earlier comment - when I mentioned using Claimyr to get through to ESD, I should add that it's especially useful for post-appeal situations like yours where you need to check on implementation status. The regular phone lines get swamped but their service cuts through that.
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Oliver Wagner
•I'll definitely bookmark that for reference. Hopefully I won't need it but good to have options.
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Malik Davis
•Exactly - it's one of those things you hope you never need but are grateful to have when you do need it.
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Tyler Lefleur
Congratulations Oliver! That's fantastic news about winning your appeal. I went through something similar last year and the relief is incredible. One thing I wish someone had told me - keep detailed records of everything during the implementation phase too. Screenshot your online account status, save any emails or letters you receive, and document any phone calls you make. If anything goes wrong during the back pay processing, having that paper trail can save you from starting over. Also, the back pay might come in chunks rather than one lump sum depending on how your claim was structured, so don't panic if you don't see the full amount right away. Wishing you a smooth implementation process!
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