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Impossible to reach ESD on 800 number - tried all day with no luck

I've been trying to reach ESD on their 800 number literally ALL DAY today. Every single time, I get the automated message telling me to 'call back later' and then it hangs up! Not once has my call been placed in a queue or answered by a real person. WorkSource told me calling is the only way to resolve my issue, but it seems impossible. I've also sent messages through the eServices question prompt but who knows when they'll respond to those... Does anyone have any tricks or specific times when it's easier to get through? I'm getting desperate here - need to talk to someone about my claim before rent is due next week.

Former ESD employee here. The system is unfortunately designed to manage call volume by disconnecting when all agents are busy, rather than creating long hold queues. Here's what I recommend: 1. Call EXACTLY at 8:00:00 AM when the phone lines open 2. If disconnected, wait 2-3 minutes before trying again (consecutive immediate redials get flagged as spam) 3. Use a landline if possible (more stable connection) 4. Have all your information ready (claim ID, dates, specific questions) 5. Be extremely specific about your issue when you do reach an agent For your job search log issue: if you're getting an error when entering activities, try using different activity types. Some claimants have success with "job application" rather than "job search" activities as the system validates them differently.

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Thank you so much for this insider info! I didn't know about waiting between calls - I've been immediately redialing which might be making things worse. The tip about job search activities is super helpful too. I'll try submitting my activities differently.

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if ur really a former employee then why did u guys make it so impossible to reach anyone? its like the system is designed to stop ppl from getting help!

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I was finally able to get through to ESD last month about a similar issue! I noticed that calling on Wednesday around 3:15pm worked for me. The agent told me that's when their call volume typically dips a bit. Also, make sure you're calling the right number for your specific issue. The general claims line (800-318-6022) is different from the weekly claims line (800-318-6020). Good luck!

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Thanks for the tip about Wednesday afternoon! I'll add that to my strategy. I've been calling the general claims line (800-318-6022) since that's what WorkSource told me to use for this issue. Fingers crossed I can get through tomorrow!

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How long after submitting my ESD appeal should I expect a hearing date?

I got disqualified from unemployment benefits last week because ESD claims I 'voluntarily quit' (which is NOT true, I was laid off). I immediately filed an appeal through the eServices portal and uploaded my termination letter as evidence. The confirmation page said something about 'hearing will be scheduled' but didn't give any timeframe. It's been 7 days and I haven't heard anything - no mail, no email, nothing in my eServices inbox. How long does it normally take to even get a hearing date assigned? My savings are running out fast and I'm getting really worried. Has anyone gone through the appeals process recently?

Also my hearing was done by phone, not in person. Make sure ur phone number is updated in the system and that you answer ALL calls during your scheduled hearing time even if the number looks weird. I almost missed mine cuz it came from a weird area code I didn't recognize!

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That's good to know - I'll make sure my phone info is updated. Did they email you any documents before the hearing or was everything by mail?

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While you're waiting for your hearing date, use this time to thoroughly prepare. Review the ESD Claimant Handbook section on appeals (pages 39-42), gather all documentation about your separation from employment, and consider if you need witnesses. OAH hearings are formal proceedings where both you and ESD will present your case to an Administrative Law Judge, so preparation makes a significant difference in outcomes. When you do receive your hearing notice, it will include important information about your rights, how to submit evidence, and deadlines for doing so. Read every page carefully.

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Thank you - I didn't even think about the Claimant Handbook. I'll review those sections tonight. Do you think I need to get a lawyer for this?

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Reopening ESD claim after 2 months - Will I face the 9-week waiting period again?

So I had to stop filing my weekly claims about 2 months ago because I got a temp job that just ended. Now I need to reopen my unemployment claim, but I'm worried I'll have to go through that horrible 9-week waiting period again like when I first applied. The first time was a nightmare - I couldn't pay rent and had to borrow money from family. Does anyone know if reopening a claim means starting the waiting week all over again? Or can I just pick up where I left off since it's the same benefit year? I tried looking at the ESD website but got confused with all the technical terms. Really need to know ASAP since my savings are basically gone after this temp job didn't become permanent.

Just to clarify one technical point about reopening claims: when you reopen, you're required to register for job search services through WorkSource again and resume your job search activities (3 per week). Even if you were exempt before (like on standby status), you need to check if that exemption still applies when reopening. This is a common issue people miss when reopening claims. The job search requirements are strictly enforced now compared to earlier years.

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That's good to know - I wasn't exempt before so I was doing the job searches anyway. I'll make sure to register with WorkSource again though. Would hate to get disqualified over something technical like that!

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Let us know how it goes! I'm curious if there are any delays with reopening claims in 2025. When I did mine last year it was pretty quick, but I've heard ESD's systems have been updated since then.

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Just wanted to update: reopened my claim yesterday and it went through without any issues! The system accepted it right away and I was able to file for this week. It shows my claim as active with the same weekly benefit amount I had before. So relieved that I don't have to go through another long wait. Thanks everyone for the help!

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Can LMTs include unpaid time between clients for ESD's 680 base year hours requirement?

I recently got laid off from my massage therapy job and I'm trying to file for unemployment. Here's my issue: when I add up just the billable hours on my paychecks, I'm coming up short of the 680 hours needed in my base year. But at my clinic, we had to be there 30 minutes between each client (for room cleanup, notes, etc.) and this time wasn't paid or shown on our paychecks. If I could count those unpaid 30-minute blocks, I'd definitely qualify. Has any other massage therapist (or similar profession) successfully included this kind of unbilled/unpaid time in their ESD hours total? The online application doesn't really explain what counts as 'hours worked.' I don't want to submit incorrect information, but these were mandatory hours I had to be at work!

Update: I spoke with an ESD agent yesterday who confirmed I should include ALL hours I was required to be at the workplace, including the unpaid time between clients. I've submitted my application with the corrected hours (adding all those 30-min breaks) and it puts me well above the 680 hour threshold! The agent said they might contact my former employer to verify, but as long as I can prove it was mandatory time (I found our employee handbook that states we must remain on premises between appointments), I should be good. Thanks everyone for your help!

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That's great news! Smart move finding that employee handbook - that's exactly the kind of documentation that helps. Keep us posted on how it goes with your claim.

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One more thing to keep in mind - if your employer disputes the hours, don't panic. ESD will schedule a fact-finding interview where both sides can present their evidence. Just make sure to attend the interview and clearly explain the workplace policy. Having that employee handbook is perfect evidence. Also, if you have any emails or text messages about staying on premises between clients, save those too. Documentation is your best friend in these situations.

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Thank you for the heads up. I'll prepare all my documentation now just in case there's a dispute. Really appreciate all the guidance here!

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ESD Training Benefits for AI career transition - any success stories?

I got laid off from a software development position 6 weeks ago and am trying to pivot into AI/machine learning roles. I have a background in Python programming but need more specialized AI skills to be competitive. I notice ESD offers several training programs while on unemployment: - Training Benefits (TB) - Commissioner-Approved Training (CAT) - Self-Employment Assistance program (SEAP) - WorkSource training options - Public service training Has anyone here successfully used any of these programs for tech skill development? I'm particularly interested in which one might work best for AI-specific training. I'm worried about the cost of bootcamps vs. what ESD will actually cover. Also concerned about maintaining benefits while training. My weekly claim situation is stable for now, but I've been getting interview rejections due to lack of AI project experience. Any advice from someone who's navigated ESD training options for tech upskilling would be super helpful!

my friend did the WorkSource thing and said they helped him with resume writing and interview practice which was actually useful. maybe try that part even if their training isn't AI specific

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yeah worksource helped me w/ my linkedin profile for free and that got me more interviews even tho i didnt do any of their training programs

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To update on your question about online certifications: Online training CAN qualify for CAT if it's from an approved provider and is part of a structured program with defined start/end dates and course hours. Self-paced learning generally doesn't qualify. I'd recommend these steps: 1. Set up an appointment with a WorkSource career counselor (they're familiar with what ESD typically approves) 2. Bring a list of specific AI programs you're interested in 3. Ask them to help you determine which would likely qualify for CAT 4. Have them help you with the application paperwork In my experience, having a WorkSource counselor advocate for your application increases approval chances substantially. They know exactly what documentation ESD is looking for.

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This is excellent advice - thank you! I'll make an appointment with WorkSource this week. I've been researching a few structured online programs that have specific cohort start dates, so hopefully those might qualify. Did you find your training led directly to employment afterward?

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