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Just to update you - I checked the most current ESD guidelines, and for 2025, family employment exclusions only apply to certain business structures:\n\n1. Sole proprietorships: Employment of spouses, parents, or children under 18 may be excluded\n2. Partnerships: Employment of partners or their spouses, parents, or children under 18 may be excluded\n3. LLCs and Corporations: Family relationships generally don't matter - employees are employees\n\nSo if your brother's construction company is an LLC or corporation, you should be fine. If it's a sole proprietorship or partnership, there could be issues. You can find this in the ESD Employer Handbook on their website.
My hearing is next month for something similar. Anyone know if these hearings are still being done by phone because of COVID or are they in-person now? The notice wasn't clear.
They're still doing most hearings by phone. You'll get a call at the scheduled time. Make sure to have ALL your evidence submitted beforehand through their online portal. Have your documents in front of you during the call. And BE ON TIME - they won't reschedule if you miss it without a really good reason!
Update: I finally managed to get through to someone at ESD! Turns out my employer also submitted some email exchanges showing they had verbally warned me about inventory issues before the written warning. This makes my case harder, but at least now I can prepare better for the hearing. Thanks for all the advice everyone.
This is really good that you found this out before the hearing. Now you can prepare to address these emails specifically. Focus on whether these were actually clear warnings or just normal work communications. Also consider if there were extenuating circumstances like staff shortages, system issues, or inadequate training that contributed to the problems. Don't forget to emphasize any positive feedback or performance reviews you received during the same time period.
I experienced this frustration with ESD last year. If you're certain your husband won't need to claim additional benefits, you can ignore the notice. However, if there's any chance he might need unemployment again soon, it's better to submit the application even if it's late. The most important thing is getting clarity directly from ESD about your specific situation. I struggled for weeks trying to reach someone until I discovered Claimyr (claimyr.com). They helped me get through to an ESD representative in under 20 minutes when I'd been trying for days. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3. Definitely worth it to get an official answer about your specific situation.
For clarity on the technical aspects of your question: 1. If your husband has exhausted his benefits (used all available funds) AND is not seeking additional unemployment compensation, there is no requirement to respond to the reapplication notice. 2. The notice you received is about the end of the benefit year (the 52-week period from when he first applied), not about the exhaustion of funds. 3. If he's now employed, there's even less reason to respond to the notice. 4. If he might need unemployment again within the next few months, filing a new application now might actually complicate things, as he would need to report his new employment income. 5. The only possible consequence of not responding would be if he was still attempting to claim weekly benefits while having an exhausted claim. Since that's not your situation, you should be fine.
Thank you for breaking it down so clearly! This really helps us understand the whole situation better. He's working now and we don't anticipate needing benefits again anytime soon, so it sounds like we made the right call by not responding. The ESD notices and requirements can be so confusing sometimes!
just to share my experience - my claim was denied because I quit "voluntarily" even though it was for childcare. ESD said I should have "explored all other options" first. The appeal took FOREVER and I still got denied! The system is totally rigged against parents who need to care for sick kids!!!! Ugh so frustrating.
That's unfortunate about your claim. For others reading: when quitting for caregiving, ESD requires documentation that you explored ALL alternatives - like asking for schedule changes, taking leave, finding alternative care, etc. It's not enough to just say you needed to care for your child - you have to prove there were no other options. Document every conversation and alternative you explored.
Update: I tried the Claimyr service mentioned above and actually got through to ESD! The agent said I should formally request accommodation from my employer in writing first (asking for a temporary leave or shift change) and keep their response. She said I should continue working part-time while the first adjudication resolves if possible. If I absolutely need to quit, I should get detailed medical documentation showing why my daughter needs care during my current work hours specifically. She also suggested applying for Standby status with a specific return-to-work date when my daughter's treatment schedule changes. Thanks everyone for your help!
This is excellent news! The agent gave you perfect advice. Having that formal accommodation request (and likely denial) documented will significantly strengthen your case. Make sure to follow through with the medical documentation as well - be specific about the hours care is needed and why alternative care isn't possible. Glad you were able to get through and get solid guidance!
Demi Hall
One more important thing - when your daughter has her appeal hearing (which will likely be by phone), she should: 1. Be very organized with dates and facts 2. Speak clearly and calmly 3. Answer only what is asked, don't volunteer extra information 4. If she doesn't know something, just say "I don't know" rather than guessing 5. Explain simply that it was a mistake clicking the wrong box, not an attempt to claim benefits inappropriately The Administrative Law Judges generally understand honest mistakes happen, especially with the confusing weekly claim questions.
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Rosie Harper
•THIS!!! The judge asked me like 50 questions and I started rambling and it almost hurt my case. Just answer exactly what they ask!!!
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Elliott luviBorBatman
The whole system is ridiculous. ESD makes their questions intentionally confusing so people make mistakes, then punishes them for honest errors. I've seen so many cases where people check the wrong box accidentally and then get hit with "fraud" accusations. Why don't they have a simple verification process before jumping straight to denial and overpayment?! It's not like retirement income is a secret - they could easily verify this information with other government agencies! The entire UI system is designed to deny benefits rather than help people who actually need assistance.
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Darren Brooks
•While I understand your frustration, I don't think it's intentionally designed to trick people. The questions do need to be clearer though. For anyone reading this thread who's filing weekly claims, always double-check your answers before submitting, especially for the questions about: - Work and earnings - Retirement pay - School attendance - Availability for work - Ability to work These are the areas where most accidental reporting errors happen.
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