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I'm an HR professional, and I can tell you that your situation sounds like what we call a "constructive discharge" in employment law. When your employer changes working conditions in a way that makes it impossible for you to continue working, it's not truly a voluntary quit. A few tips for your hearing: - Keep your testimony focused on FACTS rather than emotions - Be specific about dates and times of schedule changes - Explain exactly why the new schedule made continued employment impossible - Describe any attempts you made to negotiate an alternative schedule - Bring written documentation of everything BUT - be aware that if you were hired with the understanding that you might need to work various shifts, your case may be weaker. The judge will consider whether schedule flexibility was a known condition of employment from the beginning.

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not true I got hire for day shift only n they tryed to put me on nights after 3 years and i won my case! they cant just change ur whole life with no notice!!

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Thank you for this advice! My offer letter actually specified "daytime business hours" as my work schedule. When they changed to rotating shifts, my manager said "business needs have changed" but didn't offer any accommodation for my situation. Will definitely bring a copy of my offer letter to the hearing!

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One more important thing based on my experience - make sure to submit all your evidence at least one week before the hearing! There's a deadline and if you miss it, the judge might not accept your documents. You can email them to OAH or upload through their portal. Also, write out a clear timeline of events and practice explaining your case in a logical order. The judges really appreciate when people are organized and to-the-point.

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Oh wow, I didn't realize there was a submission deadline! I just checked my hearing notice and you're right - evidence has to be submitted 7 days before. Thank you so much for mentioning this!

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To answer your question about cross-examination - yes, I did have to question my former employer. The judge will explain how it works at the start of the hearing. You'll each get to make opening statements, present your evidence, and then ask questions of each other. When it was my turn to question my employer, I focused on getting them to admit facts that supported my case rather than trying to catch them in lies. Simple questions like "Is it correct that on [date] you changed my schedule without notice?" or "Do you agree that the company policy states [X]?" worked well. Stick to facts rather than emotions. And if they say something untrue, don't interrupt - write it down and address it when it's your turn to speak again.

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That approach makes a lot of sense. I'm going to write down some potential questions based on this strategy. Really appreciate the specific examples - makes it feel less intimidating somehow.

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I'm going through something similar right now! Have you received the official hearing packet yet? Mine came about 10 days before the hearing date and included all the evidence ESD and my employer submitted. Going through that packet was super helpful because I could see exactly what they were claiming and prepare my responses. If you haven't gotten it yet, keep checking your mail carefully!

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I just got a notice with the date and time but nothing else yet. Good to know I should be getting more information soon! I'll keep an eye out for it. Did your packet come by regular mail or was it sent electronically?

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i had soemthing similar happen but turned out they were sending approval letters for different WEEKS not for my overall claim if that makes sense. one approval was for week ending 1/15 and the other for week ending 1/22 but my overall eligibiilty was still in question. might want to read the fine print on those letters.

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I just double-checked the letters, and they're definitely about my overall eligibility, not specific weeks. One is titled "Redetermination of Eligibility" and the other is "Notice of Adjusted Determination." Both say I meet the requirements for benefits based on my separation reason.

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After your hearing (which u will probably win based on those approval letters), make sure u ask about getting interest on ur backpay. Washington state law says they have to pay interest if benefits r delayed more than 30 days after approval. Most people dont know this and ESD never volunteers this info!!!

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Are you serious? I never knew about the interest thing! I waited 5 months last year and never got a penny in interest. Is there somewhere official that explains this rule?

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My neighbor works for ESD (not saying this to brag just giving context lol) and she says September is when they do a lot of quarterly reviews. Apparently they're going through and checking everyones job search logs right now so that might be it. Do you upload your job search logs or just keep track of them yourself?

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I've been keeping track in a spreadsheet but haven't uploaded anything. They've never asked me to upload them. Is that what I'm supposed to be doing??

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You're not required to upload job search logs unless specifically requested. However, you must maintain detailed records of your 3 job search activities per week. If ESD requests your job search logs during an audit or review, you typically have 7 days to provide them. This could potentially be the reason for your adjudication status, especially if they sent a request that you missed or didn't receive due to a technical issue.

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Just checking in - any updates on your situation? Were you able to reach ESD?

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Finally got through yesterday! Turns out it was a random quarterly review - they're verifying my job search activities. The agent sent me a secure message with a link to upload my job search logs for the past 8 weeks. She said once I upload those, it should only take 7-10 days to review (much better than the 3-6 weeks I was worried about). Thanks everyone for your help and advice!

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did u check ur spam folder in email?? esd sent me an important message that went to spam and i almost missed the deadline to respond!!

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Good idea! Just checked spam and found nothing from ESD, but I did add esd.wa.gov to my safe senders list to make sure future emails don't get filtered. Thanks!

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