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im confused...what is a waiver? i got an overpayment notice for $1200 last month. can i just apply for a waiver instead of paying it?
Yes, you can apply for an overpayment waiver if you believe the overpayment wasn't your fault OR if paying it back would cause financial hardship. Go to your eServices account, look for the "Submit Overpayment Waiver Request" option. You'll need to explain why you're requesting the waiver and possibly provide financial information. But be prepared to wait - as you can see from this thread, ESD can take a very long time to process these requests.
wait guys i have a question - i got a waiver approved but never got any money back.... did i miss something???
If you never made any payments toward the overpayment before your waiver was approved, there wouldn't be anything to refund. But if you did make payments (either directly or through benefit reductions), you should have received a refund. Check your eServices account for any notices about the waiver decision, and look for information about refund eligibility. If you believe you should have received a refund but didn't, you'll need to contact ESD directly to inquire about it.
Has anyone noticed how these "calendar week" rules are NEVER clearly explained when you're filing?! The questions just ask if you were "available for work" without explaining what they mean by that! And then they hit you with these technical overpayments months later! It's like they WANT people to make mistakes so they can collect overpayments!
My cousin had this exact problem last year. He was on a hunting trip that went from Thursday-Monday (only 5 days) but got hit with a two-week overpayment. What worked for him was bringing printed calendar evidence to his appeal hearing showing the actual days he was gone. The judge ended up reducing it to just the actual days he was unavailable instead of full weeks. Bring as much documentation as you can to your hearing!
That's encouraging to hear! I have my travel itinerary that clearly shows the dates, so I'll definitely bring that to the hearing. Did your cousin represent himself or get a lawyer?
my freind had this same problem but with L&I not ESD i think all the state agencys dont talk to eachother lol. she got her money back after like 2 months. good luck!!
L&I and ESD both terrible! But at least your friend got her money back. Some people never see a dime after the government wrongfully takes it!
Just to follow up on this thread: I checked with a colleague at ESD today about the current timing. For refunds of tax offsets when there's an approved waiver, they're currently processing these in about 4 weeks if you provide all the documentation correctly. Make sure you've submitted the Form 483-B specifically, as this initiates the refund process in their system. Without this form, your case might get delayed even if you've called and emailed.
so how'd it go??? was it ok??
It went fine! You were all right - just a quick 15 minute call where the judge explained the hearing process, confirmed my subpoena requests (approved 2 out of 3), and made sure we all had the same documents. My employer was there but barely said anything. Now I feel much better prepared for the actual hearing next week! Thanks everyone for calming me down yesterday!
Good luck with your actual hearing! Quick tip - write down all your key points beforehand so you don't forget anything important when you get nervous. And remember to address all your comments to the judge, not directly to your former employer, even if they say something you want to respond to. The judge really appreciated when I maintained that formality.
That's excellent advice, thank you! I'm definitely going to prepare a list of talking points. And good reminder about addressing the judge - I probably would have fallen into arguing directly with my ex-boss which wouldn't look good.
Maya Diaz
To add to my earlier comment - when you reapply, make sure to emphasize any of these factors that apply to your situation as they can help with approval: 1. Your progress in the program so far (GPA, completed credits) 2. The specific in-demand nature of your field of study (cybersecurity is definitely in-demand) 3. Your status as a veteran in transition (ESD does prioritize veteran applications) 4. Any job offers or career prospects you've already established 5. How close you are to program completion ESD has limited Training Benefits funding, so they prioritize applications that demonstrate clear workforce reentry potential. The stronger your case for completing the program and securing employment, the better your chances for continued approval.
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Haley Bennett
•this system is SO FRUSTRATING though because people get cut off mid-program! what's the point of approving someone for training if you're not going to let them FINISH?? ESD needs to guarantee the full program length upfront! 😡
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Rami Samuels
Just thought of another thing - the timing matters a lot. Since your benefits expire January 11, 2025, and that's during winter break for most colleges, make sure your application clearly addresses how your academic schedule aligns with the benefits timeline. ESD sometimes gets confused about academic calendars vs. benefit periods. Also, reach out to your academic advisor at Pierce and ask if they can provide a letter stating your satisfactory progress and expected completion date. Having documentation from the school strengthens your case significantly.
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Yara Campbell
•That's a good point about the winter break timing. I hadn't considered how that might complicate things. I'll definitely talk to my advisor about getting that letter. Thanks for all your help!
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