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Whatever you decide, act quickly. These programs have strict timelines and deadlines. Missing a deadline could affect your benefits for months.
I've been through a similar situation and here's my advice: Start by calling Washington ESD to report your upcoming surgery immediately - don't wait until you're actually unable to work. Then apply for PFML right away since it takes 6-8 weeks to process. The key is overlapping your applications so there's no gap in benefits. Also, ask your surgeon's office for all the medical documentation you'll need upfront - they're used to these requests. Keep detailed records of every conversation and form you submit. The transition between programs can be smooth if you plan it properly. Good luck with your surgery!
This is exactly the kind of comprehensive advice I was hoping for! Thank you for breaking down the timeline so clearly. I'm going to call Washington ESD first thing tomorrow morning and then get started on the PFML application. The tip about getting medical documentation upfront is really smart - I'll contact my surgeon's office this week to see what forms they typically need to complete. It's reassuring to hear from someone who's actually been through this process successfully.
Good luck OP! The severance situation is confusing but you'll get through it. Just remember that thousands of people deal with this same issue - you're not alone in figuring it out.
Just wanted to add something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - when you report your severance to Washington ESD, make sure you have all the documentation ready. They'll likely ask for your separation notice, severance agreement, and details about exactly what the payment covers. Having everything organized upfront will help speed up the adjudication process. Also, if your severance includes any stock options or deferred compensation, those might be treated differently, so mention those too if applicable.
btw make sure u start doing ur job search activities ASAP. u need 3 job search activities EVERY week or they'll deny benefits. and keep good records of everything!!
Thanks for the reminder! I'll start applying for jobs right away. Do the job search requirements apply to the waiting week too?
Just wanted to add - since you're in construction, you might want to check if your union has any specific guidance about filing unemployment claims. Some construction workers have different rules or considerations, especially if you're typically seasonal or expect to be called back when work picks up. Also, Washington allows you to file claims online through the ESD website, but if you run into any technical issues or have questions about your specific situation, don't hesitate to call their customer service line (though as others mentioned, it can be tough to get through). The key thing is to stay consistent with filing your weekly claims even if you don't get paid for the waiting week.
That's a great point about checking with the union! I'm not union but I appreciate the reminder about staying consistent with weekly claims. I was worried about filing for the waiting week if I wasn't going to get paid, but it sounds like I need to do it anyway to keep my claim active. The construction industry can be so unpredictable with layoffs and callbacks - good to know there might be different considerations for seasonal work too.
As someone who's been navigating the Washington ESD system for years, I wanted to add that timing can really matter with these applications. If you're applying as a substitute teacher, try to submit your claim as soon as possible after your last day of work. The longer you wait, the more likely ESD might assume you're not actively seeking work or that you have some informal understanding about returning. Also, when you're filling out the application, be very specific about your employment status - don't just say "substitute teacher" but explain that you worked for multiple districts without guaranteed future employment. The clearer you are upfront, the smoother the process usually goes.
That's really smart advice about timing and being specific in the application! I hadn't thought about how waiting too long might hurt your case. As a newcomer to this whole process, I'm realizing there are so many little details that can make a difference. Your point about explaining the multi-district situation clearly upfront makes total sense - better to over-explain than leave room for assumptions. Thanks for sharing that insight from your years of experience with the system!
As a new member here, I just want to say how incredibly valuable this discussion has been! I'm also a substitute teacher in Washington and was completely in the dark about the reasonable assurance rules until reading through all these comments. It's really encouraging to see Jackson's success story and all the detailed advice from experienced members. I'm planning to apply for benefits this week and will definitely follow the guidance about documenting everything, being specific about working for multiple districts, and applying promptly. It's amazing how much clearer the process becomes when you have real experiences to learn from rather than trying to decode the official ESD website alone. Thanks to everyone who shared their stories - both the successes and the frustrations!
Welcome to the community! I'm also new here and just learning about all these unemployment rules for education workers. It's really overwhelming trying to figure out the Washington ESD system on your own. This thread has been like a crash course in substitute teacher unemployment benefits - I had no idea about the reasonable assurance thing before reading everyone's experiences. Good luck with your application! It sounds like you're taking all the right steps based on what Jackson and the others shared.
Javier Morales
Update: I called ESD this morning after failing to get through for 3 days straight. Finally got through and they confirmed I need to indicate I'm no longer available for work on my next weekly claim. The agent said this will automatically close my claim and I can apply for PFMLA the next day. Thanks everyone for your help! Now to figure out the PFMLA application process...
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Isabella Costa
•Congrats on getting through! One tip for the PFMLA application - make sure you have a clear medical certification form from your doctor. They're REALLY picky about how that form is filled out. My application was delayed by 3 weeks because the doctor left one field blank.
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Aisha Mahmood
Congratulations on your new baby! I just went through this exact same transition 3 months ago when my daughter was born. The process is actually pretty straightforward once you know the steps: 1. File your final weekly unemployment claim and select "no longer available for work" - there will be a dropdown asking why, and you can select something like "caring for family member" 2. Wait 1-2 business days for the system to process the closure 3. Apply for PFMLA at paidleave.wa.gov (totally separate system) 4. Make sure your PFMLA start date is AFTER your final UI week ends The key thing I learned is to keep screenshots of everything - your final UI claim confirmation AND your PFMLA application. ESD systems don't always communicate well with each other, so having your own documentation is crucial if any issues come up later. Also, start gathering your paperwork for PFMLA now - you'll need the baby's birth certificate and a medical certification form from your doctor. The sooner you get those ready, the smoother the application process will be. Good luck and enjoy those precious newborn days!
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Isaac Wright
•@Aisha Mahmood Thanks for sharing your experience! I m'in a similar boat - been on UI for about 6 weeks after a layoff and my partner is due next month. Your step-by-step breakdown is really reassuring. One thing I m'worried about though - did you have any income gap between when your UI ended and when PFMLA payments started? I keep hearing horror stories about people waiting weeks or even months for their first PFMLA check, and with a new baby on the way I m'stressed about covering expenses during any gap period.
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Mia Rodriguez
•@Aisha Mahmood This is incredibly helpful - thank you for laying out the process so clearly! I m'actually in almost the exact same situation new (dad, been on UI for 2 months and) was getting overwhelmed by all the conflicting information online. Your point about keeping screenshots is really smart - I never would have thought of that but it makes total sense given how these government systems can be unreliable. One follow-up question: when you selected no "longer available for work on" your final UI claim, did the system immediately show that your claim was closed, or did you have to wait to see the status change? I m'just trying to figure out how I ll'know for sure that the UI side is properly closed before I submit the PFMLA application. The last thing I want is to accidentally have both claims active at the same time! Also, did you run into any issues with the birth certificate requirement? Our baby was just born last week so I m'not sure how long it takes to get the official certificate from the state.
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