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One more important thing to remember - make sure you complete your job search activities even while on WorkShare (unless your employer has been approved for standby). A lot of people miss this requirement and end up having issues with their claims later.
Your HR department is correct. WorkShare participants are NOT required to complete job search activities. This is one of the key differences between regular unemployment and WorkShare. Since you remain employed with your current employer (just with reduced hours), the job search requirement is waived. You still have to file your weekly claim, but you won't need to report job search activities.
Do you have enough savings to cover you for a few months? The reason I ask is because even IF you qualify, the process can take FOREVER especially if your claim goes to adjudication. I waited 11 weeks last year before seeing a penny from ESD. Just want you to have realistic expectations about timing.
I've got maybe a month of rent and bills covered if I'm super careful. Definitely not 11 weeks though...that's scary. I might need to look for a second job while this gets sorted out.
Based on everything in this thread, here's what I recommend: 1. Apply for partial unemployment immediately 2. Talk to your boss and get written confirmation that your hours were reduced due to business slowdown 3. Request standby status if your boss believes you'll return to full-time within 4-8 weeks 4. If standby is denied, complete your 3 job search activities each week 5. Report all earnings accurately when filing weekly claims You're doing the right thing by exploring your options rather than just quitting. The system is designed to help in exactly your situation - when work slows down but hasn't completely stopped.
Thank you so much for laying it out clearly. I'm going to apply today and talk to my boss tomorrow. I appreciate everyone's advice and sharing your experiences - it's really helpful to know I'm not alone in dealing with this!
The ESD is such a joke. I got approved last month after 12 weeks of waiting and they STILL messed up my payments. Got less than I was supposed to and now I'm in the endless loop of trying to get someone on the phone to fix it. Good luck getting your money lol
OP - one more thing to add. Since you're receiving your first payment after multiple weeks of claims, you might want to double-check the payment amount once it arrives. Make sure it includes all the weeks you were approved for. You can compare it with your weekly benefit amount (WBA) multiplied by the number of weeks. If there's a discrepancy, contact ESD right away. Also, don't forget that if your direct deposit info was just added or updated, sometimes the first payment can take a bit longer - up to 3 business days. But in my experience, most people see the money within 24-48 hours of approval.
Thank you! I've written down my expected total - 8 weeks at $700 should be $5,600 before taxes. I'll definitely verify once it arrives. My direct deposit info has been set up since I first applied, so hopefully that won't cause any delays. Really appreciate the help!
Have your husband call the hall tomorrow morning and make sure they have him listed as available for work!! Sometimes they forget to move you back to the available list when you get laid off again. Also get him signed up for dispatch text alerts if his local offers them.
Just want to clarify something important: Make sure your husband continues to meet job search requirements during this 1-2 week temporary layoff period, unless he's specifically granted standby status. Even if he expects to return to the same employer soon, he technically needs to complete and document three job search activities each week unless ESD has formally approved standby status. Having the employer specifically state in writing that they expect to recall him on a specific date can help with this. Many people miss this detail and end up having benefits denied for insufficient job search activities, even during brief layoffs.
Thank you for mentioning this! I don't think he has formal standby status. So even for this very brief 1-2 week period, he still needs to do the 3 job search activities per week? Is contacting his union hall for dispatch opportunities considered a valid job search activity?
Yes, he still needs the 3 activities per week without formal standby. Contacting the union hall absolutely counts as a job search activity! Also, checking the union job board and attending any union meetings about work opportunities all count as separate activities.
When I called ESD about my job change situation, they told me to include a detailed note in the comments section of my weekly claim explaining: - That I'm quitting for a better paying position - The exact wage difference - The hours at both jobs - The date of job change This creates a record in their system. But I still recommend actually speaking with an agent if possible, as they can add notes directly to your file that might prevent an automatic adjudication hold.
btw make sure u got proof of both wages like offer letters or paystubs. my cousin had to appeal when they didnt believe his new job paid more and he won cuz he had the offer letters showing the different pay rates
Good tip, I'll get everything in writing from the new employer. I already have pay stubs from my current retail job. Better to have too much documentation than not enough.
just wondering did u ever actually try to file during those 8 weeks and get stuck in the system or did u not file at all? cuz those r different situations with backdating
I didn't file at all during those 8 weeks. I was laid off and immediately started job hunting, thinking I needed to find a job first before applying for unemployment. I genuinely didn't understand I could do both simultaneously.
oh that makes it harder but not impossible. my cousin won his appeal with a similar situation but he had documentation showing he was misinformed by his employer about eligibility
I just remembered something important - make sure you specifically address WAC 192-110-095(2)(b) which states one reason for backdating is "The individual did not know they were unemployed and eligible for benefits." This exactly matches your situation if you genuinely didn't understand you could receive benefits while job searching. Also, in your job search documentation, highlight that you were doing MORE than the minimum required activities. This shows you were acting in good faith and following what you understood to be the requirements. Beware that the judge might ask why you didn't research the unemployment process online. Have an honest answer prepared for this.
Thank you! That regulation sounds exactly like my situation. I'll definitely cite that and prepare an answer about why I didn't research more thoroughly. Honestly, I was in panic mode trying to find work and had some incorrect assumptions about how unemployment works.
this whole system is just designed to torture us honestly. like why does it say PAID if it's not actually PAID??? just another example of how the unemployment system is broken. i've had the same thing happen like 5 times in the past year and each time it's a different waiting period. sometimes 12 hours, sometimes 3 days. makes no sense.
UPDATE: The money just posted to my ReliaCard this morning at 4:30am! So it took about 20 hours from when it showed as 'paid' on the ESD site. For anyone else having this issue, definitely check the ReliaCard website directly as someone suggested - the pending transaction showed up there before the money was available. Thanks everyone for the help and support!
Glad it worked out! That timing is pretty typical for the ACH transfer process. For future reference, most ESD payments follow this pattern: 1. Claim processed & approved: Usually happens the day after you file your weekly claim 2. Payment marked 'paid' in ESD system: Usually within 24 hours of approval 3. Payment received by ReliaCard: Usually 1-2 business days after 'paid' status Banking delays can sometimes extend this timeline, but as long as your weekly claims are filed correctly and your ESD account shows 'paid', the money is on its way.
After you get this resolved, I'd recommend keeping detailed records of your work hours and pay stubs for at least 5 weeks after starting any new job. Take photos of schedules and save all communications about your hours. Having this documentation ready can help if you need to request an expedited adjudication review. And remember that once this is sorted out, you'll likely receive backpay for any weeks that were eligible during the adjudication period.
I just went through this EXACT situation last month!!! Here's what happened: I got a part-time job at a restaurant, reported my hours, and boom - adjudication. My payments stopped for 2 weeks, then suddenly started again BEFORE the adjudication was even resolved! The ESD agent I finally reached told me sometimes they'll restart payments if initial verification looks good, even before final determination. So don't lose hope - it might not be the full 3 weeks without pay!
That's encouraging to hear! Did you do anything special to get them to restart your payments early? Or did it just happen automatically?
It just happened automatically! I checked my account one day and there was a payment. The adjudication was still showing as in progress, but they paid me anyway. The agent said something about a "continue to pay" flag that can get added to certain types of investigations. Not guaranteed, but possible!
My wife had this EXACT problem!!! For her it turned out her account was flagged for "suspicious activity" whatever that means. She had to call and speak to a tier 2 support person who unflagged her account. The annoying part is they never sent an email or anything to tell her about this! The system just silently blocked her. Good luck getting through on the phone though lol it took her like 80 calls.
This is extremely common unfortunately. ESD's security system flags accounts for all kinds of reasons but doesn't notify claimants. The only way to resolve it is by talking to a claims specialist who can see the account notes and remove the flag. The phone system is definitely the biggest hurdle.
UPDATE: I finally got through to ESD using that Claimyr service someone mentioned above. Turns out my account WAS flagged for identity verification because I had logged in from a different location when I was visiting my parents last month. The agent was able to remove the flag in about 5 minutes, and now I can log in perfectly fine. I wish they would just TELL YOU there's a problem instead of silently blocking access! Thanks everyone for your help and suggestions.
Glad you got it resolved! This is unfortunately very common with ESD's security system. For future reference for anyone reading this thread: if your login suddenly stops working with no error message, it's almost always an account flag that requires calling in. The system really should provide better error messages.
Kristin Frank
when i had this happen i just gave up for like 3 weeks then randomly checked my account and it was approved lol. sometimes the system just takes forever for no reason. good luck man
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Roger Romero
Just following up - were you able to make any progress with your claim? The technical support line suggestion from @profile1 is excellent advice. Also, if you're still stuck, there's a lesser-known option: the ESD Office of Administrative Hearings can sometimes help with claims that have been pending for more than 30 days, even without a formal determination. You can request this by specifically mentioning "OAH assistance with delayed claim" in your eServices message.
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Derek Olson
•Update: I finally got through to someone today! Used the technical support line as suggested and after explaining my situation, they transferred me to a claims specialist who confirmed my identity verification was actually complete, but my claim got stuck in a processing queue. They've manually moved it forward and said I should see payments within 72 hours. Keeping my fingers crossed but feeling optimistic for the first time in weeks. Thanks everyone for the help!
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Danielle Mays
•Awesome news! Hope ur payments come thru fast!!
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