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Jamal Wilson

Would I get 100% of husband's SSDI as survivor benefits if he passes after marriage but before his FRA?

I'm really confused about Social Security survivor benefits and need some advice. I'm 64 and planning to retire this year. I'm considering getting married to my boyfriend who's currently receiving SSDI. He reaches his full retirement age (FRA) in August 2025. I hate to think about this, but I'm worried about what would happen financially if he were to pass away shortly after we marry. If we get married and he passes away after 9 months of marriage but before reaching his FRA, what percentage of his Social Security benefits would I be entitled to as his widow? Does it matter that he's on disability rather than retirement benefits? And does my own retirement claim affect what I'd receive from his record? Thanks for any help untangling this.

Mei Lin

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First, sorry you have to think about these difficult scenarios. The good news is that if you're married for at least 9 months before your husband passes away, you generally qualify for widow's benefits. As for the percentage, since he's on SSDI and would pass before his FRA, you'd be entitled to a widow's benefit equal to what he was receiving at the time of death (so 100% of his SSDI amount), assuming you're at your own FRA when you claim the survivor benefit. If you claim survivor benefits before your FRA, they would be reduced. Also worth noting - if your own retirement benefit would be higher than the survivor benefit, you'd get your own benefit amount instead. The SSA will pay whichever is higher, not both.

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Jamal Wilson

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Thank you for explaining this. So just to be clear, since he's receiving SSDI now, I would get 100% of what he currently receives if I wait until my FRA to claim survivor benefits? And if I'm already getting my own retirement by then, I'd just get whichever is higher? This is all so complicated!

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My sister went thru something similar last year her husband had been on disabilty for years and then passed away. She got the full amount he was getting which I think is same as what he would of got at retirement age. But she had to be at her full retirement age to get the full amount too!!

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Jamal Wilson

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Thanks for sharing your sister's experience. That helps me understand better. Did she have any trouble with the application process?

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GalacticGuru

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Just wanted to add some clarification here. For SSDI recipients, their disability benefit amount is equal to what their full retirement benefit would be. So if your husband is receiving SSDI and passes away, you would be eligible for 100% of his benefit amount if you claim at or after your FRA. However, there's also something called the RIB-LIM rule that could potentially limit your survivor benefit if you've already claimed your own retirement benefits early. The calculation gets complicated, but basically, if you take your own retirement early and then later become eligible for survivor benefits, there might be a reduction to your survivor benefits. Another important point - you can actually switch between benefits. Many people don't realize this, but you could take your reduced retirement benefit at 64, then when your husband passes away, switch to the full survivor benefit at your FRA. Or vice versa.

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Amara Nnamani

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I never heard of this RIB LIM thing before! Is this some new rule SSA came up with?? My mom was told she could just get whichever benefit was higher when my dad died.

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GalacticGuru

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Not a new rule at all - RIB-LIM has been around for decades! It stands for Retirement Insurance Benefit LIMitation. It only applies in specific scenarios where someone claims their own retirement benefits early and later becomes eligible for survivor benefits. The Social Security Administration doesn't always explain it clearly, and many claims representatives don't fully understand how it works either. What makes it confusing is that you CAN receive whichever benefit is higher, but the survivor benefit might be reduced if you've taken your retirement early. The reduction formula is based on your age when you started receiving your own benefits and your age when you claim survivor benefits.

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Jamal Wilson

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Oh no, this sounds even more complicated than I thought. So if I take my retirement at 64 (which is before my FRA), and then later try to switch to survivor benefits when my husband passes away, those survivor benefits might be reduced because I took my own retirement early? Even if I'm at FRA when I try to switch?

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I've been trying to get answers from Social Security about almost this EXACT scenario for weeks!!! Called probably 15 times and get disconnected or wait for hours. Every rep tells me something different about survivor benefits. One said I'd get 100% if I wait till FRA, another said it would be reduced no matter what because of some rule I didn't understand. So frustrating!!!!

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Jamal Wilson

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This is all so overwhelming. I think I need to actually speak with a SSA representative before making any decisions. But from what I'm gathering, the safest approach might be to wait until my FRA to claim anything? Or would it be better to take my own retirement now and then switch to survivor benefits later if needed?

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Mei Lin

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The optimal strategy really depends on your specific situation - your own benefit amount vs your potential survivor benefit amount. If your own benefit at FRA would be significantly lower than your husband's current SSDI amount, it might make sense to claim your retirement early, then switch to the survivor benefit later. But if your own benefit would be close to or higher than his, different strategies might work better. I'd recommend speaking with a SSA representative who can look at both your records and run calculations. Just be prepared that not all representatives fully understand the RIB-LIM rule or how to optimize between retirement and survivor benefits.

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Amara Nnamani

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Everybody talking about FRA but what is it exactly?? Is it 66 or 67? My aunt said hers was 66 and 2 months which makes no sense

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GalacticGuru

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Full Retirement Age (FRA) varies depending on when you were born. For people born between 1943-1954, it's 66. For those born in 1955, it's 66 and 2 months. It gradually increases until it reaches 67 for people born in 1960 or later. So your aunt is correct - if she was born in 1955, her FRA would indeed be 66 and 2 months. You can find your exact FRA on the SSA website based on your birth year.

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Dylan Cooper

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Jamal Wilson

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Thanks for the info. I might consider using something like that if I keep having trouble reaching someone. My retirement decisions are too important to make without getting the right information.

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Mei Lin

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Here's a summary of what we've discussed to help clarify: 1. If you're married at least 9 months before your husband passes away, you qualify for survivor benefits 2. If your husband passes away while on SSDI, your survivor benefit would be 100% of his disability benefit amount IF you claim at your Full Retirement Age or later 3. If you claim your own retirement benefit early (before your FRA) and later switch to survivor benefits, the RIB-LIM rule might reduce your survivor benefit amount 4. You can choose to receive either your own retirement benefit OR the survivor benefit, whichever is higher (not both simultaneously) 5. You can switch between benefits - for example, take your reduced retirement now and switch to survivor benefits later, or take survivor benefits first and switch to your own retirement later if it's higher The best strategy depends on the specific benefit amounts in your case. I recommend speaking with a knowledgeable SSA representative who can review both your records.

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Jamal Wilson

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Thank you so much for this clear summary! I've taken notes and will definitely speak with SSA before making any decisions. This forum has been incredibly helpful.

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