Will my husband's $80k income affect my Social Security if I claim at 62?
I'm turning 62 next month and trying to figure out if I should start claiming my Social Security benefits now or wait. The big question I have is about my husband's income. He makes about $80k per year and plans to work until he reaches his full retirement age at 67 (he's 61 now). I volunteer full-time running a 501c3 food pantry network, but I don't take any salary - it's 100% volunteer work. I keep reading about this earnings limit where you can't make more than $22,320 in 2025 if you claim before your full retirement age. But I'm confused - does this only apply to MY personal earnings, or does my husband's income count against this limit since we file taxes jointly? I'm the secondary earner in our household (I worked part-time for many years while raising our kids). Will they reduce my SS benefits because of my husband's income? Or are they only concerned with what I personally earn? I don't want to claim early if they're just going to take most of it away because he's still working. The tax stuff confuses me too. Any help appreciated!
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Ravi Kapoor
Good news! The earnings test only applies to YOUR earnings, not your household income or your husband's earnings. Since you're doing volunteer work with no income, your husband's $80k salary won't affect your Social Security benefits under the earnings test. However, there are two other things to consider: 1. Taxation - up to 85% of your Social Security benefits might be taxable depending on your combined income. Since you file jointly and your husband makes $80k, some portion of your benefits will likely be subject to income tax. 2. Early filing reduction - By claiming at 62 instead of your Full Retirement Age (probably 67), your benefit will be permanently reduced by about 30%. This reduction stays even after you reach FRA. If you don't need the money right now, you might want to consider waiting until your FRA to maximize your benefit amount.
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CosmicVoyager
•Thank you so much for clarifying! That's such a relief about the earnings test. I was really worried they'd basically take away most of my benefits because of his income. About the taxation - do you know approximately how much of my benefit would be taxed with his $80k income? I'm trying to figure out if it's even worth claiming early if most of it will go to taxes anyway.
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Freya Nielsen
Congrats on your volunteer work! My mom runs a community garden program too. When I claimed SS early my wife was still working and it was fine. They dont care what ur spouse makes for the earnings limit, just YOU. But ya the tax thing is different they look at joint income for that part.
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CosmicVoyager
•Thanks! The food pantries have been my passion for years. That's reassuring to hear about your experience with your wife still working. Did you find that a lot of your SS benefits ended up going to taxes because of your joint income?
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Omar Mahmoud
The earnings test ONLY applies to the person receiving benefits, not their spouse. Since you have zero earnings from your volunteer work, you won't have any benefit reductions under the earnings test. However, regarding taxation of benefits: - For joint filers, if your combined income (AGI + nontaxable interest + 1/2 of SS benefits) exceeds $32,000, up to 50% of your benefits may be taxable - If combined income exceeds $44,000, up to 85% of your benefits may be taxable With your husband earning $80k, you'll likely hit the 85% taxation threshold. This doesn't mean you lose 85% of your benefits - it means up to 85% of your benefits are included in your taxable income, then taxed at your regular tax rate. Remember that claiming at 62 means a permanent ~30% reduction compared to your Full Retirement Age benefit. This reduction remains even after your husband retires.
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Chloe Harris
•Isnt there also that thing where if she waits to claim on her husbands record she could get more? I thought I read that somewhere that sometimes its better for the lower earning spouse to not take their own benefit early? Or am I confused about that?? The whole spouse benefit thing makes my head spin!!
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Ravi Kapoor
The person asking about spousal benefits raises a good point. As the lower-earning spouse, you might be eligible for spousal benefits when your husband files for his retirement benefits. If you claim your own benefits at 62 and later qualify for higher spousal benefits when your husband files, your total benefit would be your reduced retirement benefit plus the difference to bring you up to the spousal benefit level (up to 50% of your husband's full retirement age benefit if you wait until your FRA to claim spousal). However, if you claim spousal benefits before your FRA, they're also permanently reduced. The optimal strategy depends on your specific earnings records and life expectancy considerations.
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CosmicVoyager
•This is making me think I should talk to someone at SSA directly to understand all my options. I didn't even consider the spousal benefit angle. If I wait until my FRA, do I automatically get whichever is higher - my own benefit or the spousal benefit? I think I need to find out how much my benefit would be versus half of his.
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Diego Vargas
I was in almost the exact same situation last year! My husband was making around $75k and I was deciding whether to claim at 62. I spent WEEKS trying to get through to SSA on the phone to ask these exact questions. After dozens of failed attempts, I discovered Claimyr (claimyr.com) - it got me connected to a real SSA agent in about 15 minutes! The agent confirmed what others here said - my husband's income didn't affect my earnings limit, but it did push me into having about 85% of my benefit amount subject to income tax. They also ran calculations showing different claiming scenarios for me. Check out their demo: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Totally worth it to get personalized answers about your specific situation rather than general advice.
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NeonNinja
•SSA phone lines are IMPOSSIBLE lately!!! I tried calling for 3 days straight last month about my disability review and kept getting disconnected. Might try that service u mentioned.
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Anastasia Popov
everyone here is forgetting about medicare premiums!!!! if your joint income is over certain amount they charge you WAY more for medicare part b when you get on at 65. its called IRMAA and its a HUGE extra cost nobody talks about!!!!!
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Omar Mahmoud
•Good point about IRMAA (Income-Related Monthly Adjustment Amount). For 2025, if your modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) from two years prior (so 2023 income for 2025 Medicare) exceeds $103,000 for a married couple filing jointly, you'll pay higher Medicare Part B and Part D premiums. With a joint income of $80k, you might be under the threshold now, but it's something to keep in mind if your income increases. The standard Part B premium is around $185/month in 2025, but with IRMAA it can go up significantly based on income brackets.
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Freya Nielsen
wait i thought if u do volunteer work for your own charity that could count as work even if u dont get paid?? my uncle had some issue with this with his foundation i think
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Ravi Kapoor
•For Social Security earnings test purposes, only income that's subject to Social Security taxes counts. Since the OP isn't receiving any compensation (salary, stipend, etc.) for her volunteer work, there's no earned income to count against the earnings limit, even if she's working full-time hours. Your uncle might have been receiving some form of compensation from his foundation that counted as earned income, or perhaps there was an issue with self-employment taxes if he was running the foundation as a sole proprietor initially. Non-profit status for the organization doesn't automatically make all compensation non-taxable.
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Chloe Harris
This is all so CONFUSING!! I've been trying to figure this stuff out for my mom who's 61 and the rules make NO sense! So if the OP waits till her FRA doesnt the tax thing go away completely? I thought once you hit full retirement age they stop caring about the earnings limit??? Thats what the SS lady told us but maybe I misunderstood...
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Omar Mahmoud
•You're partially correct. The earnings test does go away once you reach Full Retirement Age (FRA) - so at that point, you can earn any amount of money without it affecting your Social Security benefits. However, the taxation of benefits is completely separate from the earnings test. Social Security benefits can be subject to federal income tax regardless of your age, based on your combined income. This taxation rule applies whether you're 62 or 92 - it never goes away. So there are two separate issues: 1. Earnings test (affects benefits if you work before FRA) 2. Taxation of benefits (affects how much tax you pay, regardless of age) I think that's where the confusion came in.
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CosmicVoyager
Thank you ALL for the helpful information! I'm definitely leaning toward waiting until at least 65 or maybe my full retirement age of 67 before claiming. Since my husband will still be working and we'd hit that 85% taxable threshold, it makes more sense to wait and get the higher monthly amount. I think I'll try to schedule an appointment with SSA to go over my specific numbers and options. I'll check out that phone service someone mentioned if I can't get through on the regular line. One last question - if I wait until my husband retires at 67 and then we both claim at the same time, would that be the most advantageous approach? Or should one of us claim before the other?
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Ravi Kapoor
•The optimal claiming strategy depends on several factors including your respective benefit amounts, age difference, health/longevity expectations, and financial needs. If your own benefit at FRA would be less than 50% of your husband's FRA benefit, and you're both in good health, it often makes sense for both of you to claim at or near the same time when he reaches his FRA. However, if your husband has significantly higher benefits and you both have longevity in your families, it might be advantageous for him to delay until 70 (increasing his benefit by 8% per year from FRA to 70) while you claim at your FRA. This maximizes the survivor benefit, which is important because when one spouse passes away, the surviving spouse keeps only the higher of the two benefit amounts. A personalized analysis would definitely help in your situation.
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