Will my Social Security PIA increase between age 62 and FRA if I stop working completely?
I'm turning 62 in three months and I'm pretty much done with working - burned out after 35 years in healthcare. I have enough credits for retirement benefits, but I'm confused about what happens to my Primary Insurance Amount between 62 and my Full Retirement Age (which is 67). If I stop working completely at 62, will my PIA only increase due to COLAs until I reach 67, or are there other factors that might increase it? I'm trying to decide whether to take benefits early or wait. My financial advisor says I should wait until at least FRA, but honestly, I could really use the income now, and I don't plan to ever work again. Would it be smarter to just start collecting at 62? I know I could suspend benefits at FRA to earn delayed retirement credits if I wanted to, but I'm not sure that's worth it either. Any insights from those who've been in this situation?
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Jay Lincoln
Yes, if you stop working at 62, your PIA will only increase with COLA adjustments until you reach your FRA. There's no other mechanism to increase your PIA without additional earnings. Whether you should take benefits at 62 really depends on your overall financial situation, health status, and life expectancy. Remember that claiming at 62 means a permanent reduction of about 30% compared to FRA. Suspending at FRA to earn DRCs might be smart if you can afford it and expect to live long, as each year you delay past FRA increases your benefit by 8% until age 70.
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Brooklyn Foley
•Thanks for explaining that! So just to make sure I understand correctly - since I'm not planning to work anymore, waiting until FRA just means I'd miss out on 5 years of payments in exchange for avoiding the 30% reduction? And if my benefit would be around $1,800 at 62 versus $2,600 at 67, it would take quite a few years to break even on those missed payments, right?
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Jessica Suarez
i took mine at 62 and havent regretted it for a second. lifes too short to wait around for moeny that might not even keep up with real inflation anyway
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Marcus Williams
•While I understand the sentiment, this is potentially expensive advice. Taking benefits at 62 versus 67 or even 70 can mean hundreds of thousands of dollars difference over a lifetime for many people. The break-even point is typically around age 80-83 depending on exact numbers. OP needs to consider their health, family longevity, and overall financial position before making this irreversible decision.
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Lily Young
This is something I've researched extensively for my own retirement planning. Once you stop working, your PIA will indeed only increase by annual COLA adjustments. But here's something important to understand: your PIA is calculated based on your highest 35 years of indexed earnings. If you've worked less than 35 years, or if some of your earlier years have very low earnings, stopping work means those zeros or low-earning years will remain in your calculation. As for claiming strategy, I'd suggest running calculations with different scenarios. The SSA website has a good calculator, or you can use more sophisticated ones online. Generally speaking, if you have health issues or short family longevity, claiming earlier makes more sense. If you're healthy with long-lived relatives, waiting provides insurance against outliving your savings.
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Brooklyn Foley
•That's really helpful info about the 35 years! I actually have 33 years of solid earnings and 5 years of pretty minimal income when I was younger. I guess that means my PIA calculation includes 2 years of zeros. But since my recent earnings have been my highest (around $85,000/year), stopping now would leave those zeros in the calculation. I hadn't thought about that aspect.
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Kennedy Morrison
I was in a similar situation and I waited until 65 to claim because I wasn't sure if I might go back to part-time work. But then I got bored in retirement and took a consulting gig that pushed me over the earnings limit! Such a headache dealing with SSA to pay back benefits. Make sure you really are done working if you claim early!!!
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Wesley Hallow
•Great point about the earnings limit! For 2025, if you're under FRA for the full year, SSA deducts $1 from benefits for each $2 you earn above $22,320. In the year you reach FRA, they deduct $1 for every $3 you earn above $59,520 (but only counting earnings before the month you reach FRA). After FRA, there's no earnings limit. This is definitely something to consider if there's any chance of returning to work.
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Justin Chang
I tried calling Social Security like 10 times to ask this EXACT question and kept getting disconnected or put on hold forever! It's IMPOSSIBLE to reach them! I finally found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to a real SSA agent in under 5 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. The agent I spoke with actually walked me through my specific situation with calculations for claiming at different ages. MUCH more helpful than trying to figure it out alone.
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Jessica Suarez
•does that really work? ive been trying to get ahold of someone at ssa for 3 weeks about my missing payment
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Lily Young
One thing nobody has mentioned yet is the tax implications. If you have other income sources (pensions, 401k withdrawals, etc.), starting Social Security early can push you into a situation where up to 85% of your SS benefits become taxable. This is another factor to consider in your decision. Also, if you're married, the implications for survivor benefits should be part of your calculation. If you're the higher earner, your spouse would receive your benefit amount as a survivor benefit if it's higher than their own. The longer you delay claiming, the higher that potential survivor benefit would be.
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Brooklyn Foley
•The tax implications are definitely something I need to think about. I have a small pension of about $1,400/month plus I'll need to start taking from my 401k eventually. Regarding survivor benefits - I'm single, so that's not a consideration for me, but it's good information for others reading this thread.
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Marcus Williams
Based on the information you've provided, here are some specific considerations for your situation: 1. With 33 years of solid earnings, you're close to the 35-year calculation period. Any additional years of work would likely replace zeros or very low earning years in your calculation. 2. Since your recent earnings are your highest at $85,000, even working part-time for a couple more years could potentially increase your PIA beyond just COLA adjustments. 3. The reduction for claiming at 62 versus 67 is permanent and substantial. 4. If your health is good and you have family history of longevity, the mathematics generally favor waiting. 5. If you need the income now, consider whether a part-time job plus limited 401(k) withdrawals might bridge you to a later claiming age. Have you run a break-even analysis to see at what age the higher monthly benefit from waiting would exceed the total benefits received from claiming early?
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Brooklyn Foley
•I haven't done a formal break-even analysis yet, but according to some rough calculations, it looks like the break-even point would be around age 80-81. My parents both lived to their late 80s, so longevity does run in my family. Maybe taking a part-time job for just 2 more years would be worth considering to replace those zero years in my calculation. Thanks for that perspective!
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Wesley Hallow
A few additional points to consider: 1. If you're completely done working, your PIA will only increase with COLA adjustments between 62 and FRA. 2. However, if you have less than 35 years of earnings, even working part-time could improve your PIA by replacing zeros in your calculation. 3. The reduction for early claiming is calculated monthly - approximately 5/9 of 1% for each month before FRA (up to 36 months) and 5/12 of 1% for each additional month. So even waiting a few months can make a difference. 4. If you claim at 62 but later regret it, you do have a one-time option to withdraw your application within 12 months of claiming. You'd have to repay all benefits received, but it essentially gives you a do-over. 5. Another strategy is to claim at 62 but suspend at FRA to earn delayed credits until 70. This can be useful in certain situations. For personalized advice, I'd recommend speaking directly with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security claiming strategies.
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Brooklyn Foley
•Thank you! I wasn't aware of the withdrawal option within 12 months - that's good to know. I think I need to schedule an appointment with my financial advisor again and bring all these points with me. There's clearly more to consider than I initially thought.
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Jessica Suarez
dont forget those crooks in congress could change the rules anytime!! bird in hand better than 2 in bush thats what my grandpa always said
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Jay Lincoln
•While it's true that Congress can make changes to Social Security, major changes typically don't affect people close to retirement age. Most reform proposals protect those within 5-10 years of retirement. Making financial decisions based on fear of potential policy changes isn't generally recommended by financial planners.
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