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Social Security survivor benefits for early retirement and SSDI - which spouse gets what after death?

I'm trying to figure out how survivor benefits will work in our situation. My husband has been on SSDI for 9 years and will turn 65 next year. I took my retirement benefits early at 62 (I'll be 66 soon). I heard someone say "when one spouse passes away, the other gets whichever current benefit is higher" but I'm not sure if that applies to our mixed SSDI/early retirement situation. What exactly happens when either of us passes away? Does it matter that I took early retirement? Would I get his SSDI amount if he passes first? Would he get my reduced benefit if I go first? The SSA website is so confusing on this topic.

Yes, the survivor would receive whichever is higher - their own benefit or the deceased spouse's benefit. Since your husband is on SSDI, if he passes away, you would be eligible for his full SSDI amount as a survivor benefit (assuming it's higher than your reduced retirement). If you pass away first, he would continue getting his SSDI since it's likely higher than your reduced retirement benefit. The reduction from taking benefits early only affects YOUR retirement benefit - it doesn't impact what your husband would get as a survivor if you pass first.

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My mom got stucck with dad's lower benefit when he died! They told her something about FRA and age difference I didn't understand. Isn't there some kind of limit if the survivor isnt at full retirement age yet?

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To add to what was said, when your husband reaches Full Retirement Age (66+), his SSDI will automatically convert to regular retirement benefits, but the amount stays the same. The most important thing to know is that survivor benefits CAN be reduced if the surviving spouse claims them before their own Full Retirement Age. Also, you can't just automatically get the higher benefit. You must actually apply for survivor benefits when one spouse passes - SSA doesn't automatically switch you. I learned this the hard way when my wife passed.

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Thank you! So does that mean if my husband passes away after I reach my Full Retirement Age (which is soon), I would get his full SSDI amount without reduction? And if he passes away before that, would my survivor benefit be reduced because I'm not at FRA yet?

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the ssa is such a mess i called them 14 times about my husbands benefits when he passed and got a different answer each time!!! they kept telling me i was eligible then not eligible then eligible again. wasted 3 months of payments i could have been getting!!!

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Here's the technical answer to your specific situation: 1. If your husband passes away first, you would be entitled to a survivor benefit equal to 100% of what he was receiving IF you are at your Full Retirement Age (FRA) when you claim it. Since you'll be at your FRA soon, timing would be important. If you claim survivor benefits before your FRA, they would be reduced. 2. If you pass away first, your husband would be entitled to a survivor benefit based on your earnings record. However, if your reduced retirement benefit is less than his SSDI payment (which is likely), there would be no increase to his benefit. The key thing to understand is that the early retirement reduction you took only affects YOUR benefit and any survivor benefit based on YOUR record. It doesn't impact survivor benefits YOU might receive based on your husband's record.

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Thank you so much for the detailed explanation! So just to be clear - the fact that I took early retirement doesn't reduce what I could get as a survivor if my husband passes away? That's a relief. Does the same rule apply when his SSDI converts to regular retirement benefits at 65?

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They make this so complicated!!! My husband was on SSDI too and when he passed away I had to wait until I was 64 to get the full survivor benefit. Something about the reduction factor and FRA. Have you gone to your local office to ask? They can run the calculations for your exact situation. I wouldn't trust what people say online (even me lol).

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You're right about going to the local office - they can provide personalized calculations. However, I need to correct something: SSDI converts to retirement benefits at Full Retirement Age (which is 66 and some months for people born in the 1950s), not specifically at 65. And when it converts, the payment amount stays exactly the same - it's just funded from a different program.

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when my dad died mom got his ssi but they said she had to wait until she was old enough otherwise she'd get a reduced amount there's a whole chart on the website where they calculate the percent you get based on your age

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Just to clarify, SSI and SSDI are different programs. SSI is Supplemental Security Income (needs-based), while SSDI is Social Security Disability Insurance (based on work credits). For survivor benefits based on either retirement or SSDI, the reduction chart you mentioned applies if the survivor claims before their FRA. At FRA or later, the survivor gets 100% of the deceased's benefit if it's higher than their own.

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Thank you all for the helpful responses! I've learned so much. One last question - does anyone know if I need to do anything special when my husband's SSDI converts to retirement benefits next year? Will that change affect potential survivor benefits in any way?

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No action needed when SSDI converts to retirement - it happens automatically and the payment amount stays exactly the same. There's no impact on future survivor benefits. The only thing I'd recommend is that both of you create My Social Security accounts online if you haven't already, so you can see your benefit amounts and estimates. Makes planning much easier.

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THIS IS WHY I HATE THE SSA!!! Why is everything so confusing!? Why can't they just make it simple! My uncle lost out on thousands because no one told him he had to APPLY for survivor benefits when my aunt died! They should automatically give you the higher amount!

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