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Jace Caspullo

Social Security survivor benefits denied for 1-year-old - birth certificate not enough proof of paternity?

My sister-in-law is having serious problems with Social Security after my brother died three months ago. She's trying to get survivor benefits for their 14-month-old son, but the SSA claims that the birth certificate with my brother's name as the father isn't enough to prove paternity! They're demanding either an affidavit or medical records listing him as the father. She's searched everywhere and can't find anything that specifically meets their requirements. They were legally married when the baby was born and have a valid marriage certificate. How is a legal birth certificate with the father's name AND a marriage certificate not sufficient proof? Has anyone else run into this bizarre requirement? What other documents could possibly work? She's desperate as money is getting tight without my brother's income.

Melody Miles

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This happened to my cousin too! SSA can be so frustrating!!!! They made her jump through all these hoops even though they were married and everything. She finally found some insurance paperwork where her husband had added the baby as a dependent. They accepted that as proof. Maybe check insurance documents, baptism records, or even tax returns if they filed jointly and claimed the child? The system is BROKEN when a birth certificate isn't enough!!

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Jace Caspullo

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Thanks for the suggestion. She did find their health insurance card that has both her and my brother's name plus the baby listed as dependents. Do you think that would work? It's crazy they're making this so difficult during such a painful time.

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The SSA has specific requirements for establishing paternity for survivor benefits that can sometimes seem overly strict. While a birth certificate is usually sufficient, there are cases where additional documentation is required, especially if the birth certificate was amended or filed after the child's birth. For your sister-in-law, here are some documents that might satisfy the SSA requirements: 1. Health insurance records showing the child as a dependent 2. The father's last will and testament mentioning the child 3. Hospital birth records with both parents listed 4. Baptismal certificates 5. Court paternity determination 6. DNA test results 7. School records listing the father I would recommend she bring as many of these documents as possible to her next appointment. Also, she should ask to speak with a supervisor if her claim is denied again.

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Jace Caspullo

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Thank you for these suggestions. The birth certificate wasn't amended - it was issued at birth with my brother's name on it. She has their health insurance card and maybe some medical visit summaries. Would a statement from their family doctor work? I'll tell her to ask for a supervisor too.

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Eva St. Cyr

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my wife had no trouble getting survior benefits for our son when i was temporary disabled and couldn't work. they just took the birth certificate. this doesn't sound right at all. maybe she talked to someone who didn't know what they were doing?

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There's a difference between disability benefits and survivor benefits after death. The documentation requirements can be more stringent for survivor claims. Also, SSA offices and representatives can sometimes vary in how strictly they interpret the requirements. That's why asking for a supervisor review is often helpful.

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I've helped several clients navigate this exact situation. Here's what's really happening: SSA follows something called the "state inheritance law" standard for determining parent-child relationships in survivor cases. If your brother and sister-in-law were married when the child was born, most states would automatically establish the legal presumption of paternity. Have her bring: 1. The birth certificate 2. Their marriage certificate showing they were married before the child's birth 3. Any evidence showing they lived together when the child was born 4. Any documentation showing your brother acknowledged the child (cards, letters, social media, anything) If the SSA representative is still giving her trouble, she should specifically request they apply the state inheritance law presumption of paternity for children born during marriage. If that fails, ask to speak with a Technical Expert or the Office Manager.

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Jace Caspullo

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This is extremely helpful information. They were definitely married well before my nephew was born, and she has plenty of photos and social media posts of my brother with the baby. I'll make sure she mentions the state inheritance law presumption specifically. Thank you!

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Kaitlyn Otto

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honestly the governmnt just makes everything hard! my brother had the same problem and gave up trying. such a shame for these kids who deserve benefits. good luck i hope you win the battle with the bureaucracy!!

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Jace Caspullo

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Thanks, we're definitely not giving up. This money will make a huge difference for my nephew's future.

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Axel Far

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Jace Caspullo

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Thank you for this suggestion! My sister-in-law has been struggling to get through on the phone lines too. She'll definitely check this out - at this point we'll try anything that might help get a real person on the line.

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Melody Miles

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Just rememberd!!! She should check if your brother filed taxes last year and claimed the baby as a dependent! My cousin used tax transcripts as proof and it worked!!

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Jace Caspullo

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That's a great idea! I know they filed jointly last year and claimed my nephew as a dependent. I'll tell her to request a tax transcript ASAP.

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The rules are different for different types of benefits. I thought survivor benefits were handled differently than regular Social Security. Is she applying for SSI or SSDI survivor benefits? Those have different rules I think.

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To clarify, she would be applying for Social Security survivor benefits for the child, not SSI or SSDI. Children of deceased workers who were insured under Social Security can receive survivor benefits up to 75% of the deceased parent's basic Social Security benefit. You're right that each program has different rules, but in this case, it's specifically about proving the parent-child relationship for standard survivor benefits.

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Just to follow up - if your sister-in-law continues to have problems even after providing additional documentation, she should consider filing a "Request for Reconsideration" (Form SSA-561). This formally appeals the decision and forces a review by someone other than the initial claims representative. She'll have 60 days from receiving a written denial to file this appeal.

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Jace Caspullo

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Thank you - this is really good to know. She hasn't received an official denial letter yet, they just told her verbally that she needed more documentation. Should she wait for an official denial before pursuing the appeal process?

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Based on your latest comments, I'd recommend she gather all possible documentation (health insurance card, tax returns, medical visit summaries, photos, social media posts) and request another appointment. When she goes in, she should confidently (but politely) state: "I understand that under state inheritance laws, a child born during a legal marriage is presumed to be the legal child of the husband. I have our marriage certificate and birth certificate to establish this legal presumption." If they still insist on more proof, then ask them to provide the specific legal basis for requiring additional evidence beyond what state law recognizes, and request to speak with a Technical Expert. Document everything - who she spoke with, when, and what was said. This sounds like a case where an individual claims representative is applying stricter standards than necessary rather than an actual SSA policy issue.

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Jace Caspullo

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This approach sounds perfect. I'll help her prepare exactly what to say and gather all those documents before her next appointment. Thank you so much for this detailed guidance - it's given us a clear path forward.

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Andre Laurent

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I'm so sorry for your family's loss. This situation is unfortunately more common than it should be. As someone who has dealt with SSA bureaucracy, I wanted to add a few things that might help your sister-in-law: 1. If she has any hospital records from when the baby was born that show your brother's name as the father, those can be very powerful evidence since they're created at the time of birth. 2. Consider checking if your brother had any life insurance policies through work that listed the baby as a beneficiary - this documentation often gets accepted. 3. Bank statements showing your brother made deposits or payments for baby-related expenses can also help establish the father-child relationship. The key is to bring multiple forms of evidence rather than relying on just one document. SSA representatives seem to feel more confident approving claims when they see a "pattern" of evidence rather than a single piece of documentation. Also, if possible, try to schedule the appointment for earlier in the day when the staff is less overwhelmed and more likely to take time to properly review everything. Best of luck to your family!

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QuantumLeap

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Thank you for the condolences and these additional suggestions. The hospital records idea is brilliant - I'll have her contact the hospital where my nephew was born to see if they have any records beyond what's on the birth certificate. She might also have some bank statements showing baby expenses since my brother was very involved in buying everything for the nursery. I really appreciate everyone's help here - it's giving us so many options to try. This community has been incredibly supportive during such a difficult time.

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Derek Olson

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I work for a nonprofit that helps families navigate SSA claims, and this situation is unfortunately becoming more common. Here's what I'd recommend your sister-in-law do immediately: 1. Request a supervisor review at the SSA office - don't accept "no" from the first representative 2. Bring a comprehensive packet including: marriage certificate, birth certificate, health insurance documents, tax returns showing the child as a dependent, and any photos/social media posts of your brother with the baby 3. Specifically ask them to apply the "marital presumption of paternity" under your state's inheritance laws If they still deny it, she should file Form SSA-561 (Request for Reconsideration) within 60 days. Also, consider contacting your local congressman's office - they often have staff who specialize in helping constituents with federal agency issues like this. The fact that they were married when the child was born should absolutely be sufficient under federal regulations. This sounds like an overzealous claims representative rather than proper policy application. Don't give up - your nephew is entitled to these benefits!

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GalaxyGazer

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This is incredibly helpful advice! I didn't know we could contact our congressman's office for help with SSA issues - that's a great backup option if the supervisor review doesn't work. The "marital presumption of paternity" language you mentioned sounds exactly like what she needs to use. I'm going to help her put together that comprehensive packet with all the documents everyone has suggested. It's reassuring to know that this should be sufficient under federal regulations and that we're not asking for something unreasonable. Thank you for giving us hope that we can get this resolved!

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