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Omar Zaki

Social Security spousal benefits: Can I get half of husband's $4000 benefit plus my $333 at FRA?

Hi everyone! I've been trying to understand my retirement options but the SSA website is confusing me. I'll be eligible for about $333/month from my own work record when I reach my full retirement age. My husband and I have been married for over 30 years, and he'll be getting about $4,000/month when he claims at his full retirement age (66). I'm wondering if I can get the "spousal top-off" benefit at my FRA? Does that mean I would get my $333 PLUS half of his benefit? Or is it just the difference between my benefit and half of his? I'm so confused about how this all works! Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

Chloe Taylor

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You won't get both your full benefit AND half of his. The spousal benefit is calculated as the greater of your own benefit OR up to 50% of your spouse's primary insurance amount (PIA) at his full retirement age. Since half of his $4,000 would be $2,000, and that's more than your $333, you'd receive approximately $2,000 as your total monthly benefit. You don't get to add them together.

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Omar Zaki

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Thank you for explaining! So I'd get $2000 total instead of $333? That's a big difference! Do I need to file a separate application for the spousal benefit or does SSA automatically calculate this for me when I apply?

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Diego Flores

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To add some clarity: when you apply for retirement benefits, SSA will automatically check if you qualify for higher benefits as a spouse. Your total benefit will be your own retirement benefit ($333) plus a "spousal top-up" to bring you to approximately 50% of your husband's PIA (about $1,667 additional), for a total of around $2,000. Make sure your husband has already filed for his benefits before you apply for spousal benefits - that's a requirement!

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not exactly right - she doesn't get $333 PLUS the spousal amount. she just gets the higher of the two amounts. in this case it would be 50% of husband's benefit which is $2000. but she needs to be at her FRA to get the full 50%

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Sean Murphy

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Actually, there's a bit of misinformation here. The way the SSA calculates spousal benefits is that you receive your own benefit first, and then they add a supplemental amount to bring your total up to the 50% of your spouse's PIA if that amount is higher. So technically, you're receiving both, but the end result is that you get the higher of either your own benefit or up to 50% of your spouse's. In your case, you'd get your $333 plus an additional $1,667 to total $2,000. The result is the same, but it's calculated as a supplement, not an either/or situation.

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Diego Flores

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Yes, you're right about how it's technically calculated! The "supplemental" approach is correct - you get your own benefit plus an additional amount to reach the 50% threshold. Thanks for clarifying that nuance. The end result is still $2,000 total.

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StarStrider

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OMG i just went thru this EXACT thing with my husband!! The SSA people kept giving me different answers every time I called!! So frustrating!!! What I learned was you don't get BOTH - you get the higher amount. For me that was half of my husbands. BUT they do consider it AS IF you're getting your own benefit plus a supplement, which matters for some tax stuff. Also, make SURE your husband has already filed for benefits or you can't get the spousal benefit!!!!!

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Omar Zaki

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It's so confusing! Thanks for sharing your experience. Did you have trouble getting through to SSA on the phone? I've been trying for days and either get disconnected or told the wait time is over 2 hours!

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Zara Malik

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When you're dealing with spousal benefits, timing is everything. While waiting until your FRA to claim spousal benefits will get you the maximum 50% of your husband's PIA, claiming earlier would permanently reduce that percentage. Also, keep in mind that your husband MUST file for his own benefits before you can receive spousal benefits based on his record. This is a common point of confusion that trips many couples up in their retirement planning.

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Omar Zaki

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That's good to know! We were planning to have him file at his FRA (66) and then I'd file when I reach my FRA a year later. Would that work? Also, does his benefit amount change if I claim spousal benefits?

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Zara Malik

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Yes, that sequence works perfectly - him filing at his FRA of 66 and you filing at your FRA a year later. And no, your claiming spousal benefits has absolutely no effect on his benefit amount. His benefit is completely independent of your decision to claim on his record.

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Luca Marino

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I had a similar situation but my own benefit was higher than half my wifes so I just got mine. Just wanted to say try using claimyr.com to reach SSA by phone. I was trying for weeks to get through then used their service and got connected to someone at SSA in like 15 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU. Saved me so much frustration!

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Omar Zaki

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Thank you! I'll definitely check that out. I've been trying to get through to them for over a week now!

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StarStrider

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I used that service too!!! Totally worth it, got through to an actual person who could help instead of being on hold FOREVER. The regular SSA phone system is completely broken.

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my aunt just went through this. at FRA she got exactly half her husbands benefit which was way more than her own. she said the SSA rep told her the easy way to think about it is you get the bigger amount, not both. also don't forget the medicare premium will be taken out of whatever amount you get unless you arrange to pay it directly

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Sean Murphy

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That's a good point about Medicare premiums. For 2025, the standard Part B premium is projected to be around $185 per month, which would be automatically deducted from her Social Security payment unless she arranges to pay it separately. That's something to factor into your monthly budget calculations.

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Chloe Taylor

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One other important thing to consider: if your husband delays claiming past his FRA to increase his own benefit (up to age 70), your spousal benefit would still be based on 50% of his PIA at full retirement age, not 50% of his increased benefit. So there's no advantage to you for him to delay filing beyond his FRA if you're planning to claim a spousal benefit. This is another area where couples often misunderstand the rules.

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Omar Zaki

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Oh that's really good to know! So if he waited until 70 to get a bigger benefit, I wouldn't get any additional spousal amount? We definitely need to factor that into our planning. Thank you!

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Diego Flores

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After reading all these comments, I'd suggest you have a one-on-one consultation with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security claiming strategies. With a significant difference between your benefit amounts, proper timing could make a substantial difference in your lifetime benefits, especially considering survivor benefits down the road. While the spousal benefit won't increase if your husband delays claiming, survivor benefits would be based on his actual benefit amount including any delayed retirement credits.

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StarStrider

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THIS!!! We paid for a 1-hour consultation with a retirement specialist and it was SO WORTH IT!! They showed us how to maximize our benefits over our lifetimes, not just looking at the monthly amount. The survivor benefit planning alone saved us thousands potentially!!!

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FireflyDreams

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Just wanted to add my experience as someone who recently navigated this! I was in a very similar situation - my own benefit was around $400/month and my husband's was $3,800. The key thing that helped me understand it was when the SSA representative explained that you essentially get "topped up" to the higher amount. So you're not losing your own work credits - they're still there as the foundation - but you get supplemented up to that 50% spousal amount. Also, definitely recommend keeping detailed notes when you talk to SSA reps because I got slightly different explanations from different people, which was confusing. The bottom line for me was getting about $1,900/month total (50% of his PIA) instead of my $400. Make sure you understand the timing requirements too - I had to wait until after my husband filed, but once he did, the process was pretty straightforward. Good luck!

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Jessica Nolan

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Thank you so much for sharing your real-world experience! It's really helpful to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation. I like how you explained the "topped up" concept - that makes it much clearer than some of the other explanations I've seen. The idea that my work credits are still the foundation but I get supplemented to reach the higher amount really helps me understand it better. I'm definitely going to take your advice about keeping detailed notes when I talk to different SSA reps. It sounds like consistency in explanations can be an issue! Your final amount of $1,900 is pretty close to what I'm expecting to get, so that gives me more confidence in the calculations everyone has been sharing here.

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