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Social Security earnings limit question - how does SS calculate the $1 for $3 deduction at age 62?

I'm turning 62 in July 2025 and planning to claim my SS retirement benefits then. I've got some chronic back issues that make my current full-time job unbearable, but I can still handle part-time work (maybe 15-20 hours weekly). I understand there's this earnings limit where they reduce benefits if you earn over a certain amount before full retirement age. My confusion is about the $1 reduction for every $3 earned - is this calculated from January 2025, or only from when I start receiving benefits in July? And does SS look at my gross income or after-tax earnings when figuring this out? I've spent hours on the SSA website and can't find a clear answer about WHEN the counting starts. If nobody here knows, I'll try calling SSA directly (though that's always a nightmare). Thanks for any help!

Sean O'Connor

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The earnings test is based on your annual income for the whole calendar year, but there's a special rule for the first year you retire. In your first year receiving benefits, SSA only counts earnings in the months AFTER you start receiving benefits. So if you claim in July, they'll only look at your earnings from July-December. And yes, they use your gross wages before taxes. Also, just to clarify - the $1 for $2 reduction applies if you're under full retirement age for the entire year. The $1 for $3 reduction is only for the calendar year you reach full retirement age, and only for the months before you hit FRA.

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Thank you so much for clarifying! So it's $1 for every $2 I earn above the limit since I'm not reaching FRA this year? That's actually worse than I thought. Do you know what the earnings limit is for 2025? I saw something about $22,000 but wasn't sure if that was current.

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Zara Ahmed

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I went through the EXACT same confusion last year! The $1 for every $2 reduction applies when you're under your full retirement age (which is probably 67ish for you). The $1 for $3 reduction only happens during the year you reach your FRA, and only counts earnings before your FRA month. SSA looks at your W-2 gross earnings or net self-employment income. And yes - during your first year on benefits, they use the monthly earnings test, so only your earnings after you start receiving benefits count. Call them to be 100% sure, but be prepared to wait FOREVER. I spent 2 days trying to get through last year.

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Luca Conti

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My neighbor told me they just give up and take ALL your benefits if you earn too much lol. But that's not true is it?

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Zara Ahmed

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@Profile7 No, that's definitely not true! They just reduce your benefits using the formula, they don't take everything. And any benefits they withhold aren't lost forever - they get added back into your monthly check after you reach full retirement age.

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Nia Johnson

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im collecting right now (started at 62 last yr) and working part time. they DO use your expected yearly income but didnt ask for proof, jsut took my word for it. but if u make more then u tell them they can hit u with an overpayment later. its gross income not net. the limit for 2024 is like 21,000 and change, will probly be a little more for 2025 with COLA

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Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm worried about accidentally earning too much and getting hit with an overpayment. Do they notify you if you're getting close to the limit?

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CyberNinja

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One thing nobody mentioned - if you're self-employed, SSA looks at both your earnings AND how many hours you work each month. Even if you don't earn much, working more than 45 hours/month in self-employment could trigger SSA to say you're not actually retired! And don't forget that the Retirement Earnings Test (RET) exempts certain income - investment income, pension payments, etc. don't count against you, only earnings from actual work. Finally, once you reach your FRA (probably 67), the earnings test disappears completely and you can earn as much as you want with no reduction.

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Mateo Lopez

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Wait does that mean after I reach full retirement age they'll give me BACK all the money they took? That doesn't sound right?

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CyberNinja

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@Profile8 - They don't give you a lump sum of withheld benefits, but they recalculate your monthly benefit amount to give you credit for the months they reduced or withheld your benefits. So your monthly payment increases after FRA to account for those previous reductions.

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Aisha Abdullah

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Have you tried calling SSA directly? I spent THREE DAYS trying to get through their phone lines last month about a similar question. Always busy or disconnected! Then I found a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to a live SSA agent in about 15 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU For a question like this about the earnings test, you really need an official answer from SSA based on your specific situation, since there are different rules for the year you file.

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I was dreading calling them because of the wait times! I'll check out that service if I can't get clear answers here. Did they explain everything clearly when you finally got through?

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Aisha Abdullah

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Yes, they were actually really helpful once I finally got through. The agent walked through my specific scenario and even did some calculations based on my estimated earnings. Definitely worth getting your specific situation reviewed since the earnings limit rules have some weird exceptions.

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Zara Ahmed

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I should add - make sure you report your expected earnings to SSA when you apply! If you don't and you earn over the limit, you could end up with an overpayment that you'll have to pay back. You can update your earnings estimate anytime if your work situation changes.

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Nia Johnson

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yeah thats what happened to my sister inlaw. didnt tell them she was still working part time and got hit with a $4200 overpayment notice last year. big mess to fix

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Luca Conti

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My uncle said nobody actually reports their part-time income and SSA doesn't really check anyway lol

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Sean O'Connor

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This is extremely bad advice. SSA has direct access to IRS earnings records and automatically checks them against what you reported. They WILL find out and you WILL get an overpayment notice, potentially years later with interest.

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So after reading everyone's comments, it sounds like I should: 1) Understand it's actually $1 reduction for every $2 I earn above the limit (not $3 like I thought); 2) For 2025, they'll only count my earnings after I start benefits in July; 3) I need to report my expected earnings when I apply; 4) It's based on gross wages. Am I missing anything else important?

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CyberNinja

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That's correct! And remember the earnings limit for 2025 will be announced late 2024 (it's adjusted for inflation each year). The 2024 limit is $22,320 for those under FRA. Since you're only counting July-December in 2025, you'd use a monthly limit of $1,860 (the annual limit divided by 12).

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Thank you! That monthly breakdown is really helpful. I'll probably earn around $1,400/month at my part-time job, so it sounds like I'll be under the monthly limit anyway.

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