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Social Security Survivors benefits over income limit at 63 - penalties before FRA?

Hello SS community! I'm 63 and currently receiving Survivors benefits after my husband passed away last year. I've been offered a career change opportunity that would put me over the 2025 earnings limit ($23,400 I believe?). I might be in this higher-earning position until I reach my Full Retirement Age at 67. I understand they'll withhold benefits if I go over the limit, but I'm wondering: Is there a TIME restriction on how long I can exceed the earnings limit while collecting Survivors benefits? Will SSA eventually cut me off completely if I'm over the limit for multiple years in a row? Also - are there any other penalties I should be aware of besides having to pay back some benefits? Will this affect my own retirement benefit calculation when I switch at FRA? I'm excited about this job opportunity but don't want to mess up my benefits long-term. Thanks for any advice!

Avery Davis

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There's no time restriction on how long you can exceed the earnings limit. SSA will continue to calculate the reduction each year until you reach FRA. For survivors benefits, they withhold $1 for every $2 you earn above the annual limit. They don't make you "pay back" benefits - they just withhold future payments until they've recovered the amount. If your new job pushes you significantly over the limit, you might not receive any monthly payments for a while. No other penalties to worry about. Your own retirement benefit calculation will not be affected by this - in fact, these additional earning years might increase your own retirement benefit if they're higher than previous years in your earnings record.

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Ev Luca

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Thank you! This is really reassuring. So even if I make enough that they withhold ALL my survivors benefits for 3-4 years, they won't permanently disqualify me? I was afraid there was some rule about needing to stay under the limit a certain percentage of time.

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Collins Angel

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my cousin went thru this exact thing!! she was on survivors and took a job that put her WAY over the limit. SSA just stopped her checks completely for like 8 months then started again when she cut back hours. no big deal, they dont kick u off permanently

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Ev Luca

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That's so helpful to hear a real example! Did she have any trouble when they restarted her benefits or was it automatic?

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Collins Angel

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it was automatic but took forever lol. like 6 weeks after she reported her hours changed. but they did backpay her

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Marcelle Drum

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Just to add some clarity here - what you're dealing with is the Retirement Earnings Test (RET) which applies to both retirement and survivors benefits before FRA. I went through exactly this with my wife's survivors benefits. The key things to understand: 1. There is absolutely NO TIME LIMIT on how long you can exceed the earnings limit 2. SSA recalculates this annually based on your projected earnings 3. If you're significantly over the limit, they'll suspend benefits entirely until the amount is recovered 4. Once you reach FRA, the earnings test disappears completely One thing to watch - make sure you notify SSA of your expected earnings change BEFORE it happens. If you don't, and they discover it later (usually through tax records), they'll hit you with an overpayment notice that can be a headache to deal with. Also, keep tracking your earnings throughout the year. If your income ends up being less than you projected, contact SSA to have your benefits adjusted.

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Tate Jensen

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THIS IS NOT TRUE! My brother went over the limit for 3 years and they TERMINATED his benefits permanently. The SSA agent said there's a 36-month rule!!!!

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Adaline Wong

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What the others said is correct - there's no time limit for exceeding the earnings limit. The SSA just does the calculation each year until you reach Full Retirement Age. One thing that hasn't been mentioned: this might actually be beneficial for you long-term. If you're planning to switch to your own retirement benefit at FRA (assuming it's higher than your survivors benefit), these additional high-earning years will likely increase your own retirement benefit amount. Also, keep in mind that the annual exempt amount increases each year with inflation. For 2025 it's around $23,400 as you mentioned, but it will be higher in 2026, 2027, etc.

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Ev Luca

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That's a great point about potentially increasing my own benefit! I hadn't thought about it from that angle. My plan was definitely to switch to my own retirement benefit at FRA since it should be higher based on my own work record. So these higher earning years might actually boost what I'll eventually get?

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Gabriel Ruiz

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Has anyone here had success actually REACHING someone at Social Security to discuss this kind of situation? I'm in a similar boat (60, survivors benefits, job opportunity) and I've called 47 TIMES over 3 weeks trying to get specific answers about my situation. Either busy signals or 2+ hour waits that disconnect me! I found a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me finally get through to SSA. They have this system that holds your place in line and calls you when an agent is available. Saved me hours of frustration! There's a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU When I finally spoke with the SSA rep, they confirmed everything others have said here - no time limit on exceeding the earnings test, just a calculation they do each year until FRA.

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Collins Angel

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omg thank u for this!! i've been trying to call about my dad's medicare issue for days!!

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Ev Luca

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This is super helpful! I was dreading trying to call them about my situation. Did you find the SSA agent was knowledgeable about the earnings limit specifically?

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Gabriel Ruiz

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Yes, the agent I spoke with was very knowledgeable about the earnings test. She explained exactly how they calculate the withholding and told me what documentation I would need to provide about my estimated earnings. Definitely worth getting through to someone to discuss your specific situation!

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When I was receiving survivors benefits, I went over the earnings limit for FIVE YEARS before reaching FRA. They just reduced my benefit each year based on my estimated earnings. Just make sure to report your expected earnings at the beginning of each year. If you don't, you'll get hit with an overpayment notice when they process your W-2 or tax return. One warning tho - if ur benefits are completely withheld, make sure you still stay enrolled in Medicare when you become eligible at 65 (if applicable). Some people mistakenly think they need to wait until they're actually receiving SS checks again.

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Ev Luca

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Five years - that's exactly what I needed to hear! My situation would be about 4 years. The Medicare tip is really helpful too - I'll be eligible in a couple years so I'll make sure to keep that in mind.

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Marcelle Drum

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One more important point: Even if your benefits are completely suspended due to earnings, you're still ENTITLED to those benefits. This becomes important if something happens to change your situation. For example, if you stop working or reduce hours later (before FRA), you can notify SSA and your benefits would be reinstated based on the new earnings estimate. Also, keep in mind that only wages and self-employment income count toward the earnings test. Investment income, pension payments, government benefits, interest, and dividends don't count against you.

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Ev Luca

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That's a crucial distinction about what types of income count! My new position would be a regular W-2 job, but I do have some investments that generate income. Good to know those won't affect the calculation.

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Tate Jensen

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Im so CONFUSED by all this!!! Doesnt taking a job that pays more than the limit mean your NOT RETIRED?? Why should anyone get SS if there still working and making good money? The whole system makes no sense!

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Avery Davis

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The earnings test isn't about whether you're "retired" - it's a calculation that recognizes people might partially retire or need supplemental income. Once you reach Full Retirement Age, the earnings test goes away completely - you can earn unlimited amounts while receiving full Social Security benefits. The reason for this policy is that Social Security was designed to replace income in retirement, but acknowledges that the transition to full retirement is often gradual for many people.

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