Should I take SS benefits at 65 with family history of early death, or wait until FRA?
I'm turning 65 next month and really struggling with the Social Security decision. My situation is a bit unusual - I've built enough rental income and investments that I don't *need* the money right now. The logical move would be waiting until my Full Retirement Age (67) for the higher benefit amount. But here's my concern: almost everyone in my family has died before 75. Both parents, all uncles, even my older brother last year at 72. With this family history, I'm seriously wondering if I should just take the reduced benefits now at 65. I've calculated that waiting until 67 would mean about $420 more per month ($2,540 vs $2,120), but I'd need to live until almost 80 to make up the difference from the 2 years of missed payments. Has anyone else made this decision with similar family health concerns? Would claiming now and investing those payments myself make sense as a way to ensure my kids get something if I follow the family pattern? Any insights appreciated!
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Donna Cline
This is actually a really common dilemma, and one that requires looking at both math and personal circumstances. Since you mentioned your family longevity concerns, that's definitely a valid factor in your decision-making process. A few thoughts: 1) If you claim at 65, you'll face approximately a 13.3% reduction from your full retirement age benefit 2) The breakeven point you calculated around age 80 sounds about right 3) Your ability to invest those early benefits could potentially offset some of the reduction Have you considered a split strategy? You could file for your own reduced benefit now, then if you do live past the breakeven point, you could voluntarily suspend benefits at FRA to earn delayed retirement credits until 70. This gives you some flexibility if you beat the family history odds.
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Lucas Parker
•Thanks for this thoughtful response. I hadn't considered the voluntary suspension option at all! That's an interesting middle ground approach. Do you know if there are any downsides to that strategy? And would my benefits automatically increase if I suspended at 67?
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Harper Collins
TAKE THE MONEY NOW!!! Sorry for shouting but I've seen this exact situation play out badly. My dad waited until 70 to maximize his SS and then died at 72. TWO YEARS of benefits and then GONE. The government keeps all that money he could have had for 5 extra years!!! Don't trust the breakeven calculations - they assume you'll live to be 85+ which sounds like it's not likely given your family history. The SSA benefits from people dying early after delaying!!
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Kelsey Hawkins
•This happened to my neighbor too! Waited and waited for the bigger check and then boom, heart attack at 73. Such a shame when he could have enjoyed that money or left it to his kids.
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Dylan Fisher
I faced a similar situation three years ago and decided to split the difference. I took my benefits at 66 (my FRA was 66 and 4 months) because of family health history concerns. One thing to consider that hasn't been mentioned yet is that if you're married, your decision affects survivor benefits for your spouse. If your spouse would receive more from survivor benefits than their own record, waiting might make sense even with family longevity concerns.
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Lucas Parker
•That's a great point about survivor benefits. My wife is 5 years younger than me and has a much smaller earning history, so she would definitely rely on survivor benefits. I hadn't factored that into my thinking at all. That definitely complicates things.
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Edwards Hugo
Something important to consider: you mentioned you have enough passive income that you don't need SS right now. If you claim early at 65 and your total income exceeds certain thresholds, you could trigger the Social Security earnings test if you're under FRA. For 2025, if you earn over $22,750 (the projected limit), SSA withholds $1 in benefits for every $2 you earn above that limit. Have you calculated if your passive income might trigger this? It's a common oversight that can drastically reduce those early benefits.
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Lucas Parker
•Wow, I had no idea about this. My rental income is about $45,000 annually plus some dividend income. Does all passive income count toward this limit? I definitely need to look into this more.
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Edwards Hugo
•Yes, rental income can count depending on how involved you are in managing the properties. If you're actively managing them (making repairs, finding tenants, etc.), it's considered earned income. If a management company handles everything, it might be considered passive. Dividend and interest income don't count toward the earnings test. I'd recommend scheduling an appointment with SSA to discuss your specific situation before making your decision.
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Gianna Scott
im 68 and took mine at 66... family history is important but dont forget medical advances too! my dad died at 67 heart attack but with todays medicine I'm doing fine with same condition he had. no regerts either way just my 2 cents
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Alfredo Lugo
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Kelsey Hawkins
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Alfredo Lugo
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Dylan Fisher
Looking back at your original post, I think everyone's missing something important here. You mentioned potentially taking the money now to ensure your kids get something if you die early. Remember that Social Security retirement benefits don't pass to your children when you die (unless they're minors or disabled). Only your spouse can claim survivor benefits. If leaving money to your kids is a priority, taking benefits early and investing them could indeed create an inheritable asset, whereas delaying benefits would not help your adult children at all if you pass away early.
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Lucas Parker
•This is EXACTLY what I was thinking about but couldn't articulate clearly. I want to make sure something goes to my kids if I follow the family pattern of dying relatively young. If I wait until 67 and die at 72, those 5 years of higher payments don't really build anything for them. But taking it at 65 and investing even a portion might. Thank you for understanding this aspect of my concern.
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Kelsey Hawkins
just wondering when your birthday is? we might be SS twins lol...im december 13th and also turning 65!
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Lucas Parker
•November 18th! Close but not quite twins. Are you also trying to decide when to file?
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Donna Cline
One more resource to consider is the SSA's Annual Statistical Supplement, which contains actuarial tables based on mortality data. Based on current tables, a male at age 65 has an average additional life expectancy of approximately 18.2 years, which would put you at 83+. However, family history can certainly adjust those expectations. Since your wife is significantly younger and would rely on survivor benefits, you might consider a hybrid approach: file now at 65 for reduced benefits, but set aside a portion of those payments in a separate investment specifically earmarked to help offset the reduced survivor benefit your wife would receive if you pass away. This gives you the best of both worlds - early access to benefits while still planning for your wife's financial security.
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Lucas Parker
•That's a really smart approach I hadn't considered. Creating a specific investment fund from a portion of the early benefits to supplement my wife's survivor benefits later. Thank you for this suggestion!
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Harper Collins
Has anyone mentioned the tax implications yet? If you're already comfortable with your passive income, taking SS early might push you into a higher tax bracket where up to 85% of your SS benefits become taxable. Sometimes waiting makes sense JUST for the tax planning aspect.
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Gianna Scott
update us on what you decide! im curious what youll choose
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Lucas Parker
•I'm leaning toward taking it at 65 based on all this feedback. Will probably file next month and start setting aside a portion for my wife's future needs. Thanks everyone for the insights!
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