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Laid off at 64 - navigating unemployment, Social Security, and severance timing questions

I just got permanently laid off at 64 years and 5 months old and I'm completely overwhelmed trying to figure out the right sequence for unemployment, Social Security, and when to actually file. I'm technically on "administrative leave" until February 14 (my final official day) and will receive a severance package next month. I'm pretty sure I'm done with full-time work - my job was a great remote position that I doubt I'll find again, especially at my age. My husband is about 2 years younger and still working full-time. Here's what I'm considering: 1. Apply for unemployment first 2. Wait until AFTER receiving my severance to file for SS benefits 3. Maybe look for part-time work after unemployment runs out (26 weeks) But I'm confused about timing and earnings limits. Will my 2025 income (including severance and unemployment) mess up my ability to claim SS this year? Or would I need to wait until 2026? I've heard different things about how unemployment and severance affect SS benefits. Does anyone have experience navigating this combo of unemployment + Social Security + severance? What order should I do things in to maximize benefits?

First, take a deep breath - this is manageable! I went through something similar at 63 last year. You're on the right track with applying for unemployment first. The severance timing question is important. Your severance doesn't count as "earnings" for Social Security earnings test purposes - only wages from actual work count. So you can receive your severance and it won't affect your SS benefits. However, unemployment benefits might be reduced if you're receiving Social Security in some states, so check your state's rules. If you're 64 and 5 months now, you're still under Full Retirement Age (FRA). For 2025, you can earn up to $21,240 without SS benefit reduction if you're under FRA. Anything over that, and they deduct $1 for every $2 you earn. This includes only work income, not unemployment or severance. You don't need to wait until 2026 to claim - you can file now, but just be mindful of the earnings test if you take part-time work.

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Thank you so much for this detailed response! That's really helpful to know severance won't count against the earnings test. I wasn't sure about that distinction. Do you know if I should literally wait until after the severance hits my bank account before applying for SS? Or does the timing not matter since they're separate things? I've been stressing about getting the sequence exactly right.

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OMG i'm going thru the EXACT same thing!!! got laid off last month at 63 and trying to figure out if I should take SS now or wait????? so confusing!!! did you talk to someone at SS yet?? I tried calling and was on hold FOREVER and then got disconnected. typical. 😡

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No, I haven't been able to get through to anyone at SSA yet. I've tried calling a few times but the wait times are ridiculous. It's so frustrating when you really need answers to make these big decisions! I hope you have better luck than I've had so far.

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I've helped several friends through this exact situation. Here's what you need to know about SS filing strategy in your case: 1. The earnings test for 2025 is $21,240 if you're under FRA. This ONLY applies to wages from work, not severance or unemployment. 2. Since you're 64.5, your FRA is likely 66 and 8-10 months. If you claim now, you'll face a permanent reduction of about 12-13% from your full retirement amount. 3. Unemployment and Social Security can be collected simultaneously in most states, but some reduce unemployment if you're getting SS. 4. You don't need to wait for severance to clear before applying. SSA asks about expected future earnings from WORK, not one-time payments like severance. 5. IMPORTANT: There's a Social Security rule called "deemed filing" - once you file for any benefit, you're deemed to have filed for all benefits you're eligible for. So if your spousal benefit might be higher than your own, think carefully about timing. My suggestion: Apply for unemployment immediately. Then seriously consider whether claiming SS at 64.5 vs waiting until your FRA makes financial sense in your situation.

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This is so helpful, thank you! I hadn't considered the deemed filing issue - I need to look into whether a spousal benefit might eventually be higher. My husband has always earned more than me. I'm still not sure if I should take the reduced amount now or try to hold out until my FRA. Is there a break-even calculator you'd recommend to figure out if waiting makes sense?

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when i got laid off i just did unemployment right away and waited on ss. got a part time job at target and it wasn't so bad. but i was only 62 so different situation maybe. good luck!!

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Sorry to hear about your job loss. The unemployment system is awful to navigate, and SSA is even worse! After spending WEEKS trying to get someone on the phone at Social Security (either disconnected or 3+ hour wait times), I found a service called Claimyr that got me through to a human at SSA in under 20 minutes. They basically wait on hold for you then call you when they have a rep on the line. Saved me so much frustration! Their website is claimyr.com and they have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU As for your actual question - I was in a similar situation last year. I took unemployment first, then filed for SS about 3 months later. My severance didn't affect my benefits at all. The key thing to watch is if you get part-time work later, stay under the earnings limit ($21,240 for 2025).

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omg thank u for this!!! i'm going to try that service right now because i've been trying for DAYS to talk to someone!!

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Thank you for the tip! I'll definitely look into that service. The thought of sitting on hold for hours is so depressing, especially when I have so many questions about my specific situation.

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THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED AGAINST US!!! I got laid off at 63 and they told me I earned "too much" in my last quarter to get my full SS even though I WASNT WORKING ANYMORE!!!! Had to wait SIX MONTHS before getting my full payment!!! The SSA doesn't care about real people and their ACTUAL circumstances. They just apply their stupid rules without any COMMON SENSE!!! My advice: document EVERYTHING. Get NAMES of everyone you talk to at SSA. Ask for SUPERVISORS when they tell you something that makes no sense. The frontline people often don't know the actual rules!!!

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This comment contains misinformation. What you experienced was likely the standard earnings test calculation. SSA doesn't look at quarterly earnings alone - they apply the annual earnings test with monthly exceptions available in your first year of retirement. If you stop working mid-year, you can use the monthly earnings test, which allows you to receive full benefits for any month you earn under $1,770 (2025 figure) regardless of annual total. This requires proper documentation, which may explain your frustration if this wasn't properly explained or applied in your case.

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Regarding your part-time work question - if you do decide to work part-time after unemployment runs out, you'll need to stay under the annual earnings limit of $21,240 (for 2025) to avoid benefit reductions if you're claiming SS before your Full Retirement Age. However, there's a special rule for the first year you retire. In that first year, you can use a monthly test instead of the annual test. This means that regardless of your total annual earnings, you can receive benefits for any month you earn less than $1,770 AND don't perform substantial services in self-employment. This could be very useful in your situation since you've worked part of 2025 already. Make sure to let SSA know you've retired mid-year so they can apply this monthly test.

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I had no idea about this monthly test! That would be perfect for my situation since I've already earned a decent amount in January and part of February 2025. Is this something I need to specifically request when I apply, or do they automatically check if it applies to my situation?

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my sister just went thru this. she took unemployment first then filed SS after getting her last check from work. they told her severance didn't matter for SS but the unemployment office asked about her severance i think. they all have different rules its so confusing the thing about part time work, just be careful not to make too much or they take away some SS. my sister works at a garden center 3 days a week and its under the limit so shes fine

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Here's an important timing consideration: Social Security benefits are paid the month after they are due. Also, they are payable for an entire month, but you must be eligible for the entire month. Since you turn 65 in about 7 months, if you file now, you'll get the benefit amount for age 64 and 5 months. That's approximately a 13.9% reduction from your full retirement age amount. One strategy to consider: Start your unemployment benefits now, then apply for Social Security a month before your unemployment runs out (assuming you haven't found part-time work yet). This maximizes your immediate income while allowing your SS benefit amount to grow slightly. Remember that each month you delay filing between 62 and your FRA increases your benefit amount by about 0.5% to 0.7% depending on your exact birth year. Small increases, but they last for life.

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That's a really smart strategy! I hadn't thought about timing it so precisely with the unemployment running out. That makes a lot of sense - get the higher SS amount by delaying a few months while still having income from unemployment. I think this might be the approach I take. Thank you for breaking down the math on the reduction percentages too.

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just wondering did you check if you can get any disability instead of regular ss? my neighbor got that when he got laid off at 61 and had some health problems. paid more than regular ss i think

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I don't think I'd qualify for disability. I'm fortunate to be in fairly good health, just dealing with the age discrimination in finding another comparable position. But thank you for the suggestion!

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One more thing to consider: since your husband is still working and 2 years younger, you might want to look at spousal benefit strategies. If you claim your own retirement benefit now, you'll be locked into that reduced amount (plus COLAs) for life. If you wait until your husband files (which would be at least 2 years from now), you might be eligible for a spousal benefit if 50% of his FRA benefit is more than your own benefit. However, because of the "deemed filing" rules that came into effect in 2016, if you file for your own benefit now, you'll be automatically deemed to have filed for spousal benefits too, even though your husband hasn't claimed yet. This means if you later become eligible for a higher spousal benefit, you'll only get the difference added to your already-reduced retirement benefit. This gets complicated quickly and really depends on your specific situation and benefit amounts, so it might be worth consulting with a financial advisor who specializes in Social Security claiming strategies.

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This is definitely something I need to look into further. My husband has consistently earned more than me throughout our careers, so the spousal benefit might be significant. I'll need to weigh immediate financial needs against potentially higher lifetime benefits. Thank you for pointing this out - it's another factor I hadn't fully considered!

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I'm so sorry to hear about your job loss - being laid off at any age is stressful, but especially when you're close to retirement. I went through something similar at 63 and wanted to share what worked for me. You're absolutely right to apply for unemployment first - that's immediate income you're entitled to. The good news is that unemployment and Social Security can typically be collected simultaneously, though some states have specific rules about this. Regarding your severance timing question: you don't need to wait for the severance to hit your account before filing for SS. Severance is considered a one-time payment and doesn't count toward the earnings test that could reduce your benefits. Only ongoing wages from actual work count toward that $21,240 limit for 2025. However, before you file for Social Security, I'd strongly recommend getting an estimate of your benefits at different claiming ages. You can do this on the SSA website with your my Social Security account. At 64 and 5 months, you're looking at about a 13-14% permanent reduction from your full retirement age amount. One strategy that might work: Use unemployment benefits to bridge the gap for a few months while your SS benefit amount grows slightly each month you delay. Then file for SS closer to when unemployment runs out, giving you a bit higher monthly benefit for life. Also consider spousal benefits if your husband has higher earnings - the timing of when you claim can affect your future options there too.

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