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Can I delay filing for unemployment until 2025 after August layoff? Questions about severance and job search requirements

Hi everyone, I was laid off on August 9th, 2024 when my company decided we all needed to relocate to headquarters (which is 2,000 miles away from me!). They finally sent my separation paperwork on 8/29 and mentioned severance will be paid as a lump sum within the next 6 weeks. I'm actually considering NOT filing for unemployment right away. With our savings and the severance package, we should be okay financially for a few months. I'm thinking about waiting until January 2025 to file my initial claim. My questions: 1. Is this even allowed? Can I wait 4-5 months after separation to file for unemployment? 2. Are there any disadvantages to waiting this long? 3. If I wait to file until January, do I still need to be actively job searching during these months before I file? I'm hoping to use the next few months as a bit of a sabbatical - focus on health stuff, do some personal development, and only apply to positions that really interest me. I'm worried I might not find something in my field at a comparable salary level right away. Any insight would be greatly appreciated! This is a follow-up to a post I made back in May when I first found out about the relocation-or-layoff situation.

Yes, you can wait to file your initial claim. Your claim doesn't start until you actually file, but be aware there are some important considerations: 1. Your base year for calculating benefits will be different if you wait until 2025. ESD uses your earnings from the first 4 of the last 5 completed calendar quarters. Filing in January means different quarters will be used than filing now. 2. You're not required to do job searches until you actually file a claim and start claiming weekly benefits. 3. The potential downside is you're essentially leaving money on the table. Once you qualify for unemployment, those weeks don't roll over - if you don't claim them, they're gone. Personally, I'd consider filing now to establish your claim, then if you find work soon, great! If not, you have the safety net in place.

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Thank you so much for this helpful information! I hadn't considered the base year calculation difference. Do you know if waiting until 2025 would be better or worse in terms of benefit amount? My income has been pretty consistent the past few years, if that matters.

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u can do whatever u want but why would u wait?? ur literally leaving free money on the table. unemployment is a benefit u PAID INTO through taxes. its not charity. take the money while ur eligible!! just my 2 cents...

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This! 👆 I waited a month to file after my layoff and I still regret those weeks of benefits I'll never see. Don't be me lol

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While you technically can wait to file, I want to add some important nuances to what others have said: 1. Washington has a claim backdating limitation - you can only backdate a claim up to 4 weeks prior to application. So if you wait until January, you cannot claim any weeks from August-December. 2. Regarding your base year - if you wait until January 2025 to file, your base year will be October 2023 through September 2024. If you file now, your base year would be July 2023 through June 2024. 3. Job search requirements only begin once you start filing weekly claims. During your "gap" period before filing, you're not obligated to do any job searches for ESD purposes. 4. One thing to consider: severance pay can affect your unemployment benefits during the weeks it covers. ESD may consider a lump sum severance as covering a specific period based on your weekly salary. Filing later might avoid this potential reduction. I recommend at least opening your claim soon so you understand your weekly benefit amount, then you can make a more informed decision.

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This!! The backdating limitation is SUPER important. I found out the hard way when I tried to backdate my claim by 3 months and ESD said nope, only 4 weeks. Those were some expensive lessons 😭

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I did something similar last year but ended up regretting it. Waited 3 months thinking I'd find something quickly and wanted to just take a mental break. Ended up taking 7 months to find work and those first 3 months of potential benefits would've really helped later on when savings got tight. Just saying, the future is uncertain!

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That's definitely something I'm worried about. The job market in my field seems to be slowing down a bit. Did you have any issues with ESD questioning the gap between your last day of work and when you filed?

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Random question but does anyone know if the severance can reduce your weekly benefit amount? I got severance too and ESD reduced my payments during those weeks even tho it was a lump sum? So confusing!!!!

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Yes, ESD typically treats lump sum severance as being spread over a period based on your previous weekly salary. So if you received 6 weeks of severance pay as a lump sum, ESD might reduce or eliminate your benefits for 6 weeks. This is one reason some people wait to file until after the severance "period" ends, though I still generally recommend filing sooner rather than later.

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I spent 4 HOURS trying to reach ESD last month with questions about my severance package and how it would affect my claim. Kept getting disconnected or stuck on hold forever. It was a nightmare until I found Claimyr (claimyr.com). They got me connected to an actual ESD agent in about 25 minutes! I was shocked. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/7DieNd3C7zQ?si=26TzE_zGms-DODN3 The agent explained exactly how my severance would affect my benefits and helped me plan accordingly. Worth checking out if you have specific questions about your situation.

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Thanks for the tip! If I do decide to file sooner, I'll definitely need to ask some specific questions about how my severance works with the benefits. Bookmarking that site.

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One thing nobody's mentioned: your benefit year. Once you file a claim, you establish a 52-week benefit year. During that time, you can collect up to your maximum benefit amount (usually 26 times your weekly benefit). If you wait until January and then lose a job AGAIN later in 2025, you might not be able to file a new claim until your benefit year ends in January 2026. Just something to consider in your planning!

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Omg good point! Never thought about that angle

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For anyone interested in the specific ESD rules on severance pay: when you receive a lump sum severance payment, ESD allocates it based on your regular weekly wage. They treat it as if you're continuing to receive regular pay for a specific period. For example, if your weekly wage was $1,000 and you receive a $6,000 severance, ESD will consider you as having received wages for 6 weeks after separation. During those weeks, your unemployment benefits may be reduced or eliminated depending on the amounts. This is why understanding the timing can help you maximize your benefits. So waiting until after the severance period could make sense IF you're confident in your financial situation and job prospects. But as others have mentioned, you're essentially giving up potential benefit weeks that you won't get back.

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Thank you for explaining the severance calculation so clearly! Based on that formula, my severance would cover about 12 weeks. So maybe filing in December makes the most sense for my situation, rather than waiting all the way to January. I really appreciate everyone's input on this.

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As someone who went through a similar situation, I'd strongly recommend filing your claim sooner rather than later, even if you don't immediately start collecting benefits. Here's why: 1. You can establish your claim and benefit amount now, then choose when to start your weekly certifications 2. The job market can be unpredictable - what looks like a few months of searching could easily turn into 6+ months 3. Your severance might actually work in your favor timing-wise. If ESD allocates it over 12 weeks as you calculated, you could file now and potentially start collecting benefits right when that period ends I made the mistake of waiting because I was confident I'd find work quickly. Eight months later, I was kicking myself for those lost benefit weeks. Even if you're financially stable now, unemployment benefits are insurance you've already paid for through your taxes. Consider this: you can always stop collecting benefits if you find work, but you can't go back and claim those weeks you didn't file for. The peace of mind alone is worth it!

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