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Can my mom switch to spousal Social Security benefits years after claiming her own at 62?

My mom (now 68) has been receiving Social Security since she turned 62, but I just realized she might be eligible for more money through my dad's record. They've been separated for over 20 years but never legally divorced. Dad was self-employed with a successful construction business and receives maximum SS benefits (around $4,200/month), while mom only worked part-time retail jobs and gets a tiny check of about $740/month. She had no idea she could claim on his record when she applied. Is it too late to switch to spousal benefits? Can she go to the SSA office and change this now, or did she permanently lose this option by claiming her own benefits first? If she can switch, approximately how much would she receive as a spousal benefit considering she claimed early at 62? Any help would be greatly appreciated - she's really struggling financially.

Jade Lopez

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Good news - your mom CAN apply for spousal benefits even though she's already receiving her own retirement benefits! The SSA will pay her own benefit first, then add an additional amount to bring her up to what she's eligible for as a spouse. Since they're still legally married despite being separated, she qualifies. Since your dad gets maximum benefits, your mom would likely receive up to 50% of his Primary Insurance Amount (PIA). However, because she claimed at 62, her spousal benefits will be permanently reduced - probably to around 35% of his PIA due to the early claiming reduction. Have her contact Social Security right away - this change isn't automatic. She'll need to specifically apply for spousal benefits.

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Arjun Patel

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Thank you so much for this information! Do you know approximately how much she might receive? Would it be 35% of his current $4,200, so around $1,470? That would be life-changing compared to her current $740. And will they pay her retroactively for the years she could have been receiving the higher amount?

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Tony Brooks

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Your mom should definitely apply for spousal benefits ASAP! But I need to clarify something important - the spousal benefit calculation isn't based on what your dad is currently receiving ($4,200), but rather his Primary Insurance Amount (PIA), which is what he would receive at his full retirement age. The spousal benefit would be calculated as follows: 1. First, they'll continue paying her own benefit ($740) 2. Then they'll add an additional amount to reach the spousal benefit level The maximum she could get is about 32.5-35% of his PIA (reduced because she claimed at 62). So if his PIA is around $3,600, her total might be closer to $1,250-$1,300 total per month. Unfortunately, SSA will only pay retroactive benefits for 6 months, so she has lost some money by not applying earlier.

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This happened to my aunt too! She was getting like $800 for years then found out she could get more from my uncle's record. But beware the Medicare premium will go up too with higher income.

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Yara Campbell

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she can definitely apply for spousal benefits even after taking her own!! i did this 2 years ago. just go to the social security office with marriage certificate and they'll help. they dont tell you this stuff unless you ask!!! makes me so mad. she'll probably get around $1200-1500 total which is way better than $740!!

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Arjun Patel

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Thank you for sharing your experience! Did you have to make an appointment at the SS office or did you just walk in? And did they process your change quickly? Mom is nervous about the process and worried about paperwork issues.

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Yara Campbell

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OMG the phone system is THE WORST. I spent literally 6 hours on hold last month trying to fix my dad's direct deposit. Will check this out!

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Isaac Wright

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My mother had almost the exact situation!!!! She and my father separated in 1990s but never divorced. She claimed at 62 (big mistake) and got tiny checks while he was getting huge ones from his government job. HOWEVER - does your dad have a government pension that wasn't covered by Social Security??? If so, your mom might get hit with the Government Pension Offset (GPO) which can reduce or eliminate spousal benefits. Worth checking.

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Arjun Patel

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Thanks for bringing this up. Fortunately, my dad's business was in the private sector, so no government pension involved. Did your mom successfully switch to spousal benefits after already claiming her own?

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Maya Diaz

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THIS IS WHY THE SYSTEM IS SO BROKEN!!!!! They make everything IMPOSSIBLE to understand and don't tell people their options when they apply!! Your mom probably lost TENS OF THOUSANDS of dollars because Social Security didn't explain her options!!! 🤬🤬🤬 And why should she get less just because she claimed at 62??? She NEEDED the money then! The penalties for early claiming are RIDICULOUS when people are just trying to survive!!! The whole system is designed to CHEAT PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR BENEFITS!!!!

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Tami Morgan

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While I understand your frustration, the early claiming reduction actually makes mathematical sense when you consider life expectancy. Someone claiming at 62 will receive benefits for approximately 5 additional years compared to someone who waits until 67. The reduction is designed to make the total lifetime payout roughly equivalent regardless of when you claim. That said, I do agree the SSA should do a much better job explaining all options to applicants.

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Tami Morgan

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To clarify a few technical points: 1. Your mother can indeed apply for spousal benefits despite already receiving her own. This is an "excess spousal benefit" case. 2. The calculation will be: [50% of your father's PIA] minus [100% of your mother's PIA], further reduced for claiming at 62. 3. Since she claimed at 62, she'll receive approximately 32.5% of your father's PIA instead of the full 50% (this is a permanent reduction). 4. Assuming your father's PIA is around $3,600 (estimating from his $4,200 benefit), and your mother's PIA is about $1,000 (estimating from her $740 benefit), she would receive: - Her own benefit: $740 - Plus excess spousal: about $170-$230 - Total: approximately $910-$970 monthly This is significantly less than some commenters suggested because the excess spousal calculation is complex. I'd recommend she contact SSA directly to get the exact amount.

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Arjun Patel

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Thank you for this detailed breakdown. The calculation is more complex than I realized, and the potential increase isn't as much as I hoped. But even $200 more per month would make a difference for her. Do you know if there's any advantage to her applying in person versus calling?

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Tony Brooks

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Just wanted to add that your mom should bring as much documentation as possible to her appointment: 1. Marriage certificate (original or certified copy) 2. Both her and your father's Social Security numbers 3. Birth certificate (original or certified copy) 4. Photo ID 5. Most recent tax returns if available 6. Any divorce papers if there were previous marriages Also, even though they're separated, she doesn't need your father to be present or even aware that she's applying. This is her independent right as his spouse. Just make sure she specifies she wants to apply for "spousal benefits" not "spouse's benefits" (which is different and requires consent).

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This is such good advice. My MIL forgot her marriage certificate when she went and had to come back which delayed everything by weeks

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Isaac Wright

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heres something nobody mentioned - if ur mom and dad get divorced in future she could lose these benefits!! unless they stay married for at least 10 yrs then she can keep them even after divorce. but if theyre already been separated for decades sounds like theyve passed that 10 yr mark anyway so should be ok

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Jade Lopez

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This is correct. The 10-year marriage duration rule is important for divorced spouse benefits. Since the original poster mentioned they've been separated for decades but are still legally married, this shouldn't be an issue. However, it's a good reminder that legal marriage status does matter for these benefits.

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