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Can my husband switch to spousal benefits when my SS retirement is higher than his police pension?

After 31 years as a teacher, I finally retired last month at 64 and started collecting my Social Security retirement benefits (about $2,725/month). My husband retired from the police force 3 years ago at his full retirement age (67) and receives about $1,430/month from Social Security. I was shocked when I saw how much higher my benefit is compared to his! I'm wondering if he could switch to collecting off my record instead since mine is so much higher? Would he get half of my amount which would be more than what he gets now? Or is he stuck with his current benefit because he's already collecting? The SSA website confused me and I couldn't get through on the phone. Thanks in advance for any help!

LunarLegend

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Unfortunately, your husband is likely stuck with his current benefit. Since he's already collecting his own Social Security retirement, the only way he could get spousal benefits would be if 50% of your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) is higher than 100% of his own PIA. It's not just about the monthly amounts you're actually receiving. Also, there might be complications if he has a police pension from work not covered by Social Security - the Government Pension Offset (GPO) could reduce or eliminate any potential spousal benefits. I'd recommend speaking directly with SSA to confirm.

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Emma Davis

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Thanks for explaining! I didn't realize it was based on the PIA and not our actual benefit amounts. He doesn't have a separate police pension - his department had Social Security coverage. I'm still confused though...if my PIA is higher, shouldn't he be eligible for some additional amount? I'll definitely try to speak with SSA directly.

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Malik Jackson

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Your husband can ONLY get spousal benefits if 50% of YOUR benefit would be higher than HIS current benefit. And even then, he'd only get the DIFFERENCE added to his existing benefit, not the full 50%. So if 50% of your $2,725 is about $1,362, that's actually LESS than his current $1,430, so he wouldn't qualify for any spousal benefits. The system doesn't let you simply choose the higher option once you've filed for your own benefits.

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This is only partly right. It's not 50% of her CURRENT benefit but 50% of her PRIMARY INSURANCE AMOUNT (PIA), which is what she would receive at her full retirement age. Since she started collecting early at 64, her current benefit is reduced from her PIA. The husband would get the difference between his own benefit and up to 50% of her PIA if that amount is higher.

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Ravi Patel

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my husband was in similar situation but opposite (i had lower SS). we went to local office and they explained he couldnt switch completely to my record. but they did some calculation and he got a small increase based on my earning record. think they called it "dual entitlement" or something?? worth asking about!

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Freya Andersen

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Can someone please explain this "dual entitlement" thing? I thought once you claim your own benefits you can NEVER get spousal benefits?! This system is so confusing!! My head is spinning trying to figure out all these rules. Every time I think I understand something about SS, I find out I'm completely wrong 😫

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Omar Zaki

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I'm a retired SSA claims specialist, so let me clarify how this works: 1. When your husband filed for his retirement benefits at FRA, he received 100% of his Primary Insurance Amount (PIA). 2. For spousal benefits, the maximum anyone can receive is 50% of their spouse's PIA at their FRA. 3. Because your husband is already receiving his own benefit, he would only receive the DIFFERENCE between his own benefit and the spousal benefit IF the spousal benefit were higher. 4. Since your benefit is about $2,725 at age 64, your PIA (what you'd get at FRA) is likely around $2,900-$3,000. 5. That means your husband's potential spousal benefit would be around $1,450-$1,500 (50% of your PIA). 6. If his current benefit is $1,430, he might be eligible for a small additional amount. He should contact SSA to request this adjustment - it won't happen automatically.

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Emma Davis

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Thank you so much for breaking this down! This makes much more sense. So he might get a small increase but not a full switch to half of my benefit. I'll have him call SSA tomorrow to check if he's eligible for that difference payment.

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Malik Jackson

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CRITICAL POINT that no one has mentioned: There's a DEADLINE for requesting this adjustment! Your husband needs to file for the spousal benefit within 12 months of your entitlement (when you started receiving benefits). If he misses this window, he could lose out on back payments. Don't delay in contacting SSA to at least start the process!

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Emma Davis

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Oh wow, I had no idea there was a time limit! Thank you for mentioning this. I just started collecting last month so we should be fine, but I'll make sure we contact them right away. Thanks again!

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Freya Andersen

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Kinda off topic but am I the only one wondering how a teacher's SS benefit is almost DOUBLE a police officer's?? I thought police made way more than teachers? Is this normal or is there something strange about your situations?

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Omar Zaki

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This actually isn't that unusual. Social Security benefits are based on your highest 35 years of earnings. Some police departments don't participate in Social Security and instead have separate pension systems. Plus, many officers start their careers younger than teachers (who need degrees), and career length affects benefit calculations. Finally, some teachers work summer jobs or tutoring that adds to their SS earnings record over time.

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Based on the numbers you provided, let's do a quick calculation: Your monthly benefit at 64 = $2,725 Applying early retirement reduction factor (approximately 93.3% of PIA at age 64) Your estimated PIA ≈ $2,920 Your husband's monthly benefit at FRA = $1,430 This is 100% of his PIA Spousal benefit = 50% of your PIA = $1,460 Since $1,460 > $1,430, your husband may be eligible for a supplemental spousal benefit of approximately $30/month. He should contact SSA to verify these calculations and apply for the dual entitlement if applicable.

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Ravi Patel

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omg thank you for doing the actual math! this is exactly what happened with us - my husband got an extra $47 a month on top of his regular SS. doesn't sound like much but adds up over time! and they gave us like 3 months backpay when we finally got it straightened out

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LunarLegend

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Just to close the loop here - once you've confirmed with SSA whether your husband qualifies for the additional amount through dual entitlement, make sure to ask about how this affects future cost-of-living adjustments (COLAs). Both portions of his benefit (his own and the spousal component) will receive COLAs, but they're applied separately to each benefit component. Also, if your husband is under the full retirement age for the spousal benefit (which may be different than his FRA for his own benefit), there might be additional reductions to consider.

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Emma Davis

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Thank you! I hadn't even thought about how this affects future COLAs. I'll definitely ask about that when we talk to SSA. I appreciate everyone's helpful information - I understand the situation so much better now!

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