Social Security dilemma: Take my own benefit at 62 or survivor benefits after ex-spouse died?
I'm turning 62 in August and had originally planned to take my SS retirement benefits early at about $1,275 per month. My situation just got complicated because my ex-husband (we were married for 20 years) unexpectedly passed away last month. He was already collecting Social Security at approximately $2,950 monthly ($35,400 yearly). I'm completely confused about what to do now. Should I stick with my original plan to claim my own retirement benefit early and then switch to survivor benefits at my full retirement age? Or would it make more financial sense to take the survivor benefit now and switch to my own later? I do have a teacher's pension ($1,850/month), so Social Security won't be my only income. I've tried calling SSA three times this week but keep getting disconnected. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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Sasha Reese
I'm sorry for your loss. What you're describing is actually a common situation that many divorced spouses face. Since you were married for 20 years (over the 10-year minimum requirement), you do qualify for survivor benefits based on your ex-husband's record. In your situation, you have several options to consider: 1. Take YOUR reduced retirement benefit at 62 and then switch to full survivor benefits at your FRA (probably 66+) 2. Take reduced SURVIVOR benefits now and switch to your own retirement at your FRA or even delay until 70 for maximum growth 3. Wait until your FRA to file for either benefit without reduction The best strategy depends on the exact benefit amounts and your life expectancy. Since survivor benefits don't grow after your FRA (unlike retirement benefits which can grow until 70), many financial advisors suggest taking survivor benefits first if they're larger than your own reduced benefit.
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Christian Burns
•Thank you for such a detailed explanation. I didn't realize I had so many options! I'm really worried about making the wrong decision. Do you know if the WEP (Windfall Elimination Provision) affects survivor benefits the same way it might affect my own retirement benefit because of my teacher's pension?
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Muhammad Hobbs
my mom was in almost this exact situation!!! took survivors benefits at 60 (u can get those earlier than retirement btw) and then switched to her own at 68. worked out great for her. the SSA people told her exactly what to do when she finally got thru to them
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Noland Curtis
•This is incorrect advice. Survivors benefits taken before FRA are permanently reduced. Also, the optimal strategy depends on the specific benefit amounts. Without knowing the exact figures for both benefits, it's impossible to say which approach would maximize lifetime benefits.
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Diez Ellis
As someone who recently went through this painful process after my spouse died, I can tell you that the Social Security rules are incredibly confusing when it comes to survivor benefits for ex-spouses. The key thing I learned is that the Government Pension Offset (GPO) will likely affect your survivor benefits because of your teacher's pension. The GPO could reduce your survivor benefit by 2/3 of your pension amount. So if your pension is $1,850/month, your survivor benefits could be reduced by about $1,233/month. You really need to speak with someone at SSA to get the exact calculations based on your work history and ex-husband's record. Keep trying to reach them or make an appointment at your local office.
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Christian Burns
•Oh no, I didn't even think about the GPO! That could change everything if my survivor benefits would be reduced that much. I'm going to try to make an in-person appointment at my local office tomorrow. Thanks for pointing this out.
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Vanessa Figueroa
Just take whatever gets you the most money right now. Why wait? The economy is terrible and inflation just keeps going up. If your ex was getting over $2900 a month and you're only getting $1275, seems like a no-brainer to me.
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Sasha Reese
•This approach could cost thousands of dollars in lifetime benefits. Taking survivor benefits early means they're permanently reduced. Additionally, her teacher's pension likely triggers the Government Pension Offset, which would reduce survivor benefits by 2/3 of her pension amount. This is why it's so important to understand all the implications before making a decision.
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Abby Marshall
Have you tried using that Claimyr service to reach SSA? I was in a similar situation trying to sort out complicated survivor benefits and kept getting disconnected or waiting for hours. I found this service at claimyr.com that got me connected to a real SSA agent in about 15 minutes. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Not trying to push a service, but this is EXACTLY the kind of situation where you need to talk to an actual SSA representative who can look at your specific records and calculate your exact benefit amounts with all the relevant offsets and rules applied. My agent walked me through all my options with the real numbers.
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Christian Burns
•Thank you for the suggestion! I've never heard of this service before. I'll check out the video. At this point, I'd try anything to actually get through to someone who can help me understand my options.
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Sadie Benitez
I HATE how complicated they make this!!! Why can't Social Security just tell us clearly what to do?? I spent MONTHS trying to figure out my options when my ex died. The rules about switching between benefits make NO SENSE and even the SSA workers gave me conflicting info!!!!! Nobody seems to know if GPO applies to divorced spouses the same as current spouses and I got different answers from THREE DIFFERENT AGENTS.
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Diez Ellis
•I completely understand your frustration. The GPO definitely applies to divorced spouse survivors if they receive a government pension from work not covered by Social Security. The rule is the same for current and ex-spouses as long as the marriage lasted at least 10 years. Unfortunately, not all SSA representatives are equally knowledgeable about these relatively uncommon situations.
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Noland Curtis
One important factor you should consider is that if you take your own retirement benefit at 62, it will be permanently reduced to 70-75% of your full retirement age amount. While you can later switch to survivor benefits at your FRA, your own retirement benefit remains permanently reduced. Similarly, if you take survivor benefits early, they are permanently reduced. However, your own retirement benefit can still grow if you wait to claim it. Given that you have pension income, you might consider taking reduced survivor benefits now (even with GPO reduction) and letting your own benefit grow until 70, when it would be 132% of your FRA amount. This could be the optimal strategy if your own benefit at 70 would exceed your survivor benefit at FRA. I'd recommend making an appointment at your local SSA office for a full benefit calculation that factors in your pension and the GPO/WEP provisions.
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Christian Burns
•Thank you for the detailed explanation. I didn't realize my own benefit could grow until 70 even if I'm collecting survivor benefits. That's definitely something to consider. I'm going to try to get an appointment with SSA to run the actual numbers.
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Muhammad Hobbs
wait i'm confused... does the 10 year marriage rule still apply if ur ex dies? i thought that was only for divorce benefits when they're still alive??
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Sasha Reese
•Yes, the 10-year marriage duration requirement applies to both divorced spouse benefits (when your ex is alive) and divorced survivor benefits (when your ex has passed away). Since the original poster was married for 20 years, she definitely meets this requirement.
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Christian Burns
Update: I finally managed to speak with someone at SSA! You were all right about the GPO - it will reduce my survivor benefit by about $1,230 (2/3 of my pension). But even with that reduction, the survivor benefit would still be higher than my own reduced retirement benefit at 62. They recommended I take the reduced survivor benefit now and then switch to my own retirement benefit at 70, when it will have grown to its maximum amount. Apparently, this will give me the highest lifetime payout given my specific circumstances. Thank you all for your help and guidance through this confusing process!
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Sasha Reese
•That's great news that you got through to SSA! The strategy they recommended (reduced survivor benefits now, switch to your own at 70) is often the optimal approach for someone in your situation with a pension. I'm glad you got clarity on this important decision.
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Abby Marshall
•So glad you were able to reach someone and get a clear answer! It makes such a difference when you can talk to someone who can look at your actual numbers and situation.
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