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Social Security widow's benefits confusion - forced to take deceased spouse's lower benefit before my own?

I'm completely baffled by what a Social Security agent just told me and wondering if anyone has dealt with this situation. I'm turning 65 next month and went in to discuss my options. My husband passed away 8 years ago, and his Social Security benefit would be around $1,850/month if I claimed it now. My own retirement benefit based on my work record would be approximately $2,400/month at my full retirement age (66 and 10 months). Here's where I'm confused - the SSA agent told me that I MUST take my husband's survivor benefit first until "it runs out" (whatever that means), and only then can I switch to my own higher retirement benefit. This makes absolutely no sense to me! Everything I've read suggests I should have a choice between taking one benefit now and the other later. Has anyone encountered this bizarre explanation? Is the agent correct or completely misinformed? I'm so frustrated because this affects thousands of dollars of my retirement income.

Sofia Morales

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That agent is 100% WRONG. Survivor benefits don't "run out" - they continue for life. And more importantly, you absolutely CAN choose which benefit to take first in your situation. Since your own retirement benefit is higher, the optimal strategy would likely be to take the survivor benefit now and switch to your own retirement benefit at age 70 to maximize it with delayed retirement credits. The survivor benefit would give you income now while your own benefit grows by 8% per year until 70. Based on your numbers, if you wait until 70 to claim your own benefit, it would grow to approximately $3,000/month (a 25% increase from your FRA amount). This strategy could mean tens of thousands of additional dollars over your lifetime.

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Thank you SO much for this clarification. I felt like I was taking crazy pills during that appointment! So to be clear, I could take the survivor benefit of $1,850 now at 65, and then at 70, switch to my own benefit which would've grown to around $3,000? That makes much more financial sense. Do you know if I need to explicitly tell them I'm ONLY filing for the survivor benefit when I apply?

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Dmitry Popov

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The SSA agent gave you COMPLETELY wrong information!!! I've been through this exact situation with my own benefits. Survivor benefits NEVER "run out" - they continue for your entire life. And you absolutely DO have a choice. In fact, widows/widowers are one of the FEW groups who still have the ability to choose which benefit to take first and switch later. This is because the "deemed filing" rules that affect most people don't apply to survivor benefits. You should definitely get a second opinion from another agent. I had to talk to THREE different people at SSA before I got the correct information for my own situation. The system is so complicatd that even thier own agents get confused sometimes!!

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Ava Garcia

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You're absolutely right about getting multiple opinions. Based on my experience working with retirees, I usually recommend that people speak to at least two separate SSA representatives for important decisions like this, especially for more complex situations involving survivor benefits and the restricted application strategy that still applies to widows and widowers. For the original poster, I'd suggest writing down your questions very specifically before calling, and taking detailed notes during any conversation with SSA. If possible, ask them to cite the specific policy or regulation they're basing their answer on when they give you information that doesn't seem right.

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StarSailor}

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my mom had this exact problem!!! the first agent told her completely wrong info about her widows benefits. she was so upset. turns out the agent was confusing spousal benefits with survivor benefits which have totally different rules!

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Miguel Silva

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I've spent the last 2 years trying to get accurate information from Social Security about my widow's benefits. The misinformation is absolutely incredible. I've called at least 7 times and gotten 5 different answers. When I finally reached someone who actually knew the rules, they explained that widow(er)s have special options that most other beneficiaries don't have anymore. You can absolutely choose which benefit to take first, and the strategy mentioned above is exactly right - take the survivor benefit first, then switch to your own higher benefit later after it's grown. But good luck actually REACHING someone at Social Security who knows what they're talking about! The phone lines are beyond frustrating - I've waited 2+ hours multiple times only to be disconnected. Recently I found a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that helped me get through to an actual person at SSA without the ridiculous wait. They have a video showing how it works at https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU - it saved me hours of frustration when I needed to fix an error on my record.

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Thanks for the recommendation. The phone system is absolutely maddening. I waited 1.5 hours last week only to be disconnected right as someone picked up. I'll check out that service - at this point I'd try anything to avoid another 2-hour hold time.

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Zainab Ismail

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my aunt went thru something like this. the agent was confusing the rules for spousal benefits with widow benefits. totally different rules! she had to go back 3 times before someone realized the mistake. so frustrating

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When you say your husband's benefit "would be $1,850" - is that the actual survivor amount you'd receive, or just what his retirement benefit would have been? Because survivor benefits are either 100% of what the deceased was receiving OR 82.5% of their full retirement amount if they died before claiming (and you claim before your FRA). Just want to make sure you're working with the right numbers for your planning.

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Thanks for pointing this out. The $1,850 is what the agent told me I would actually receive as the survivor benefit. My husband had already started his benefits about a year before he passed away.

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Sofia Morales

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Quick follow-up on my earlier response: when you go back to SSA, ask specifically about the "restricted application" for survivor benefits. This is the technical term for what you want to do - restricting your application to ONLY the survivor benefit while letting your own retirement benefit grow. Also, you should know that survivor benefits taken before your Full Retirement Age are reduced for early claiming (unlike switching to your own benefit at 70, which doesn't get penalized). Since you're turning 65 and your FRA is 66 and 10 months, that $1,850 figure already includes the early claiming reduction. If you waited until your FRA to claim the survivor benefit, it would be slightly higher, but that's rarely the optimal financial strategy when your own benefit will exceed the survivor benefit eventually.

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This is incredibly helpful information! I'll definitely use the term "restricted application" when I go back. Do you happen to know if I need to bring any special documentation with me when I apply for the survivor benefit? I have my husband's death certificate and our marriage certificate already.

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Sofia Morales

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Those documents are the main ones you'll need. Also bring your own ID, birth certificate if you have it (though they may already have this on file), and your Social Security card. If you've been married before for 10+ years, bring documentation about those marriages too, as you might qualify for benefits on those records as well. And definitely bring a notepad to write down the name of who you speak with and summary of advice given.

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StarSailor}

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this is why i always tell people to do their own research about social security before going in. so many of the workers give wrong info its scary!!

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