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Sofia Morales

Can my husband claim spousal benefits on my Social Security when I file at FRA in 2025?

I'm turning my full retirement age (FRA) in 2025 and planning to claim my Social Security benefits then. My husband retired from his firefighter job and started collecting his own SS benefits about 5 years ago. We've heard that he might be eligible for spousal benefits based on my record if they'd be higher than what he's currently receiving. With all the recent changes to the Windfall Elimination Provision, I'm concerned about timing and process. I don't want to call and add to SSA's already overwhelmed phone lines if this is something straightforward. What I need to know is: When I apply for my benefits in 2025, can I somehow include him in my application for the spousal benefits? Or does he need to separately apply to switch from his current benefits to spousal benefits based on my record? And assuming everything goes through, would the spousal benefits start with my first check in 2025? Thanks in advance for any guidance!

StarSailor

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Your husband doesn't need to do anything separate! When you apply for your retirement benefits, you'll be asked if you have a spouse. The SSA system will automatically check if your spouse would be eligible for higher benefits on your record. If your husband would get more as a spouse than on his own record (which is rare, especially if he's been working for many years), SSA will automatically process the increase. I went through this last year with my wife. I was getting so frustrated trying to reach someone at Social Security to ask about this exact situation. After dozens of calls and disconnects, I used a service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that got me connected to a real agent in 20 minutes instead of spending hours on hold. The agent confirmed that it all happens automatically when the higher-earning spouse files. They have a video showing how it works here: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU And yes, if he qualifies for the higher spousal amount, it would start when your benefits begin in 2025.

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Sofia Morales

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Thank you so much for this info! That's a relief to know it happens automatically. I was worried we'd have to file separate applications and possibly miss out on benefits. I'll definitely check out that service if we run into any issues - we've had trouble getting through on the SSA phone lines before too.

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Dmitry Ivanov

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im pretty sure ur husband can only get 50% of ur benefit amount and only if its higher than his own. firefighters usually have good earnings so might not be worth it. my cousin tried this and ended up wasting his time.

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Ava Garcia

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This is partially correct. The spousal benefit is indeed up to 50% of the primary worker's benefit at their full retirement age. However, it's not a waste of time to check - the system will automatically determine this when the OP files for benefits. Since her husband already claimed his own retirement, if the spousal benefit would be higher, he'll be automatically adjusted to the higher amount. With firefighters, it depends on whether the department participated in Social Security. Some firefighters are covered by pension systems that don't participate in Social Security, which is where WEP/GPO considerations come into play.

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Miguel Silva

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NOBODY KNOWS what's going on with WEP right now!! The changes keep shifting and SSA isn't processing ANYTHING related to WEP/GPO claims until they figure it out. My brother-in-law has been waiting SEVEN MONTHS for his WEP recalculation!!! If your husband is affected by WEP because of his firefighter pension, you might be waiting a LONG time. The system is BROKEN!!!

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Zainab Ismail

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While it's true that SSA is working through a backlog of WEP-related recalculations, this shouldn't affect a standard spousal benefit application. The WEP recalculation process is separate from initial benefit applications. If the OP's husband is affected by WEP due to his firefighter pension, his own benefit might be reduced, but that's already been calculated since he's receiving benefits. The spousal benefit calculation would be based on the already-WEP-adjusted amount. The bigger concern might be GPO (Government Pension Offset) if his firefighter pension comes from non-covered employment, which could reduce any spousal benefits. But this process is still functioning, even if processing times are longer than usual.

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my husband tried to get spousal from my record last year and they said since he already took his own benefit at 62 he couldnt get the full 50% of mine. something about deemed filing i think? you might want to check that part especially with the new rules.

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Ava Garcia

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You're bringing up an important point about deemed filing. Under current rules (for people born after January 1, 1954), when you file for one benefit, you're deemed to be filing for all benefits you're eligible for at that time. However, in the OP's case, her husband already filed for his retirement benefits years ago. When she files at her FRA in 2025, the system will check if he's entitled to a higher amount based on her record. If so, he'll receive an increase to bring his benefit up to the higher amount. The spousal benefit would be reduced from the full 50% if he took his own retirement early (which it sounds like he did), and he'll only get the difference between his current benefit and the spousal amount if the spousal would be higher.

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I just went thru this exact thing with my wife!! I was the higher earner, and when I filed at FRA last Sept, they automatically calculated and adjusted my wife's benefit. It happened with the very first check - no separate application needed. One tip: print out the Social Security statement that shows your estimated benefit amount before you apply, so you have something to compare to later.

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Sofia Morales

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That's a great tip about printing the statement beforehand! I'll definitely do that. So glad to hear it worked smoothly for you and your wife - that's reassuring.

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StarSailor

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Just to add one more thing - I would recommend applying for your benefits 3-4 months before you want them to start. That gives SSA plenty of time to process everything, including any potential spousal adjustment for your husband. With their current backlogs, the earlier you apply (within their allowed timeframe), the better!

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Sofia Morales

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That's excellent advice. I was planning to apply about 2 months before, but I'll make it 3-4 months instead. Better safe than sorry with the current backlogs. Thanks!

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Does anyone know if the firefighter pension affects this at all? My neighbor was saying something about GPO being different from WEP and that first responder pensions sometimes mess up spousal benefits completely

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Zainab Ismail

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Great question! Yes, GPO (Government Pension Offset) is different from WEP and specifically affects spousal and survivor benefits. If the OP's husband receives a pension from a government job where he didn't pay Social Security taxes (some firefighter positions are like this, others aren't), then the GPO could reduce his spousal benefits by two-thirds of his government pension amount. In some cases, this can eliminate the spousal benefit entirely. However, if his firefighter position was covered by Social Security (meaning SS taxes were withheld from his paychecks), then GPO wouldn't apply. OP - you might want to check whether your husband's firefighter position was "covered" or "non-covered" employment for Social Security purposes, as this makes a big difference.

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