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Andre Rousseau

Can my children get retroactive Social Security benefits back to my protected filing date? No appointments available!

I filed for my Social Security retirement benefits with a protective filing date in July 2024. My application was finally processed in October and I received all my back pay to July (thank goodness!). However, I have minor children who are eligible for benefits on my record, and the SSA rep told me I need to bring their birth certificates to my local office to complete their applications. The phone representative promised my kids would also get retroactive benefits back to my July filing date.Here's my concern - I can't get an appointment at my local office! They're booked solid and my protective filing date supposedly expires in mid-January 2025. Will my kids lose their retroactive benefits if I can't get in before my protective filing date expires? Is there any way to extend the protective filing date or apply for them without an in-person appointment? I've tried calling multiple times but keep getting disconnected or told different things.

Your kids won't lose the retroactive benefits. As long as you filed for YOUR benefits with the protected filing date, your children's benefits can be based on when you filed. Make sure to keep trying for an appointment and document ALL your attempts to contact SSA. That protective date in January is just when you'd have to RE-APPLY if you hadn't completed YOUR application.

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Thank you so much for clarifying! I've been so worried about this. I'll document all my calls and attempts to get appointments. Do you know if there's any way to submit their birth certificates without an in-person appointment? The closest office is 2 hours away and I'd need to take the kids out of school.

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The SSA phone reps gave you the correct information about retroactive benefits for your children. Their benefits can go back to your initial filing date in July 2024, PROVIDED you add them to your record within the appropriate timeframe. The protective filing date primarily relates to your own application, but there is a separate 6-month window for adding eligible dependents.One suggestion: check if your local office accepts documents by mail with a scheduled phone appointment. Some offices implemented this during COVID and have continued the practice. You'll need certified copies of birth certificates (not photocopies) and completed applications for each child (Form SSA-2-BK).

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This is extremely helpful! I had no idea about the 6-month window for adding dependents or that some offices might accept mailed documents. I'll definitely call to ask about this option. Do you know if I would need anything besides the birth certificates and those application forms?

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You'll also need their Social Security numbers, and if you're not the custodial parent, you'll need custody documentation. The SSA-2-BK forms require quite a bit of information including any prior marriages, detailed income information for the children (unlikely they have any), and school enrollment information for children 18-19. Check the SSA website for the full checklist for child benefits - search for

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ur actually wrong about this. i went thru similar thing last year and my kids only got benefits from when i actually BROUGHT THEM to the office in person with certificates. lost almost 4 months of backpay...SSA doesnt care if u cant get appt, thats ur problem not theres. they told me specifically that protected date was ONLY for the person filing not dependants

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That's definitely not how it's supposed to work. Sounds like someone at your local office made a mistake. The program operations manual for SSA (POMS) is clear that auxiliary benefits (including children) can be paid retroactively based on the primary claimant's filing date. OP should insist on speaking to a supervisor if anyone tells them differently.

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whatever man, just saying what happened to ME. different offices do things different ways and theres nothing u can do about it

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I had almost this exact situation last year! What worked for me was calling my Congressional Representative's office. They have liaisons who work directly with SSA and can often get things expedited. I couldn't get an appointment for months, called my Rep's office, and had everything resolved within 2 weeks.Regarding your actual question - yes, your children should receive benefits retroactive to your protective filing date as long as you establish their entitlement within 6 months of your approval. The January date is when your own protected filing date would have expired if you hadn't completed your application.The key is to document everything. Write down dates of calls, names of representatives, and what was said. If you're told conflicting information, ask to speak with a supervisor.

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I never thought about contacting my Congressional office! That's brilliant. I'll try that route tomorrow. It's so frustrating that there's no consistent information. Thank you for confirming the 6-month window - that gives me some breathing room at least!

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Have you tried using Claimyr to reach an SSA agent? I was in a similar situation last month - couldn't get through on the phone for days, and online appointments were months out. I found this service called Claimyr (claimyr.com) that calls SSA for you and connects you once they reach an agent. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puUThe agent I reached was able to document in my file that I had been attempting to complete my children's applications and told me exactly what to do next. They even scheduled a phone appointment for me where I could submit documents electronically rather than waiting for an in-person slot. Saved me weeks of frustration!

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I've never heard of Claimyr before! That sounds like exactly what I need right now. Going to check out that video and website immediately. If they can get me a phone appointment where I can submit documents electronically, that would solve everything! Thank you so much for this tip.

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I tried that service once and it didn't work for me. Still waited forever. Just saying, nothing's guaranteed with SSA.

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Sorry it didn't work for you! I guess experiences vary. For me it connected within about 40 minutes when I had been trying for days on my own with no luck.

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I'm a little confused about something in your post... You say you got retirement benefits, but mention having minor children? Are you over full retirement age with young kids, or are you on disability benefits? Because that would change the advice people are giving you.

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Sorry for the confusion! I'm 63 and took early retirement benefits. My wife and I had children later in life - we have twins who are 12. You can receive benefits for dependent children even on retirement (not just disability) as long as you're entitled to Social Security benefits and they're under 18.

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Oh wow, I had no idea! I'm 60 with a 16-year-old and was planning to wait until 67 to file. Does this mean my daughter could get benefits if I filed now instead of waiting? This could change my whole retirement strategy!

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Yes, your daughter could potentially get benefits if you file now! Children can receive benefits on a parent's record until age 18 (or 19 if still in high school). However, keep in mind that if you file at 60, your benefits will be significantly reduced compared to waiting until full retirement age. You'd want to run the numbers - sometimes the child benefits plus your reduced benefits can still be more than waiting. I'd suggest using the SSA benefit calculator or speaking with a financial advisor to see what makes sense for your specific situation.

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Just to add some additional information that might help: if you're absolutely unable to secure an appointment before the 6-month window closes, you can establish a written protective filing date specifically for your children's benefits. Send a signed and dated letter to your local Social Security office via certified mail stating your intention to file for child's benefits on behalf of your minor children (list their names and SSNs). Specifically mention you've been unable to secure an appointment despite multiple attempts. This creates a paper trail that can protect their retroactive benefits even if processing is delayed.Also, bring evidence of all your attempts to contact SSA (phone records, online appointment attempts, etc.) when you eventually get an appointment. This documentation can be crucial if there are questions about the timing.

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This is incredibly helpful advice - thank you! I'll absolutely send a certified letter this week to create that paper trail. I've been taking screenshots of the appointment calendar showing no availability and noting down all my phone call attempts, so I'll have that documentation ready too.

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I'm a newcomer here but have been reading through all these responses with great interest as I'm facing a somewhat similar situation. I wanted to add something that might help - have you tried contacting your state's Department of Aging or Area Agency on Aging? Many people don't realize that these agencies often have advocates who specifically help with Social Security issues and can sometimes intervene on your behalf with SSA. They're familiar with the system and may be able to help expedite your children's applications or at least ensure you're getting accurate information. Also, regarding the Claimyr service that Liam mentioned - I actually used them successfully about 6 months ago for a different SSA issue. While results may vary as others noted, they did get me connected to an agent much faster than I could on my own. The key is to have all your documentation ready before you use their service so you can make the most of the connection once it's established. Good luck with getting this resolved - it sounds like you're doing everything right and just dealing with typical SSA bureaucracy delays!

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Welcome to the community! That's an excellent suggestion about the Department of Aging and Area Agency on Aging - I had no idea they offered Social Security advocacy services. I'm definitely going to look into that option as well. It sounds like having multiple advocates working on this from different angles could really help cut through the bureaucracy. Thanks for sharing your positive experience with Claimyr too - it's good to hear another success story since I'm planning to try that service. I've been gathering all my documents and information so I'll be ready when they connect me to an agent. It's really encouraging to see how helpful this community is with sharing these lesser-known resources and strategies!

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