Can I switch from spousal benefits at 62 to my own Social Security at 70 for higher amount?
Our family finances just took a major hit when my husband's business closed, and I need to file for Social Security earlier than planned. I'm 62 now (FRA is 67) and wondering about strategy. If I claim spousal benefits now (1/2 of my husband's benefit), would I be allowed to switch to my OWN retirement benefit at age 70 when it would be higher due to delayed retirement credits? My calculations show my age 70 benefit would be about $3,800 compared to spousal benefit now around $1,425. Can I do this "switch" strategy or am I missing something? I read conflicting things online about deemed filing rules.
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Jamal Anderson
Unfortunately the "switch" strategy you're describing isn't possible anymore. Due to the deemed filing rule changes from 2015, when you file for any benefit before your FRA (67), you're automatically deemed to be filing for ALL benefits you're eligible for. So if you file at 62, you'll get the higher of either your reduced retirement benefit OR your reduced spousal benefit - but not one now and another later. This "file one now, switch later" strategy was eliminated for anyone born after January 1, 1954. Since you're 62 now, you're affected by this rule change.
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QuantumQuest
•Oh no, that's devastating news. Does this mean I'm stuck with whatever I choose at 62 forever? This really changes everything for our retirement plans.
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Mei Zhang
My sister tried doing exactly what ur talking about last year and got told no way by SSA. They said that loophole got closed years ago. Sry about your situation!!
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QuantumQuest
•Thanks for sharing about your sister's experience. I wonder if there are ANY strategies left that might help our situation.
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Liam McGuire
I think you should consider a different approach. Since your own benefit at 70 would be significantly higher ($3,800 is substantial!), it might make more sense to: 1. Have your husband file for his benefits now if he hasn't already 2. You wait until your FRA (67) or even age 70 to maximize your own benefit 3. Live on his benefit plus whatever other income sources you can find for the next 5-8 years This approach gives you a much higher lifetime benefit. Each year you delay past 62 increases your benefit by about 7-8%. That's a guaranteed return you can't find anywhere else. If your husband's benefit alone isn't enough right now, perhaps look at part-time work or other income sources to bridge the gap rather than permanently reducing your future benefit.
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QuantumQuest
•Thank you for this thoughtful response. I hadn't considered that waiting could be so valuable. I'm just concerned about how we'll manage financially for the next 5 years with just his benefit, especially since we've already lost his business income.
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Amara Eze
im going thru the SAME thing right now!! so annoying how they changed all these rules just when we need them! theyre always taking away the good strategies!!!
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Liam McGuire
•While it might feel that way, the rule change actually happened in 2015 as part of the Bipartisan Budget Act. It affected everyone born after 1/1/1954. The strategy (called "restricted application") was considered an unintended loophole in the system that primarily benefited higher-income households who could afford to delay benefits.
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Giovanni Ricci
Have you considered spousal benefits based on an ex-spouse's record? If you were married for at least 10 years before divorcing, that's another option. Just something to consider if it applies to your situation. I know several people who were surprised they qualified for this.
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QuantumQuest
•Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm still in my first marriage. We've been married 38 years.
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NeonNomad
When I needed to talk to SSA about my complicated retirement situation last year, I was getting NOWHERE with the regular phone line - on hold for HOURS only to get disconnected! I finally used a service called Claimyr that got me through to an agent in about 15 minutes. Their website is claimyr.com and they have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Might be worth it to get professional advice directly from SSA since your situation is complicated and there's a lot of money at stake over your lifetime. They connected me right away and the agent was actually helpful in explaining all my options.
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QuantumQuest
•Thank you for this recommendation! I've been trying to get through to SSA for days without success. I'll check out that service because I really need to speak with someone who can look at our specific situation and advise us properly.
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Fatima Al-Hashemi
•i tried calling SSA 5 times last month and kept getting the "all circuits busy" message then disconnected. super frustrating! might try this
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Liam McGuire
One more thing to consider - if you absolutely need income now, you might look into claiming widow/survivor benefits from a previous spouse if applicable (those have different rules), OR consider claiming your own reduced retirement benefit now but having your husband delay HIS benefit until his FRA or age 70. That strategy works if his age 70 benefit would be significantly higher than what he'd get now. Then when he passes away someday (hopefully many years from now), you'd be eligible for a higher survivor benefit based on his enhanced benefit amount. The math on this gets complicated, so definitely talk to a Social Security specialist before making any decisions.
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QuantumQuest
•That's a different angle I hadn't considered. My husband is 64 and was planning to file at his FRA in a couple years. Maybe he should wait even longer? I'm going to make an appointment with SSA to discuss all these options. Thank you!
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Giovanni Ricci
DON'T call the general SSA number!!! Complete waste of time. Call your local office directly - google "SSA office [your city]" and you should find a direct number. I got through in 20 minutes when I called my local office versus NEVER getting through on the main line.
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Mei Zhang
•this doesnt work anymore. local numbers all redirect to the national call center now. they changed this during covid and never went back
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Jamal Anderson
After reviewing your numbers more carefully, I'm concerned about your estimate of $3,800 at age 70. That would be an unusually high benefit (it's above the maximum benefit even for someone who earned at the taxable maximum their entire career). The maximum benefit for someone retiring at age 70 in 2025 is projected to be around $4,873, but that's only for people who earned at or above the maximum taxable amount for 35+ years. I strongly recommend creating an account at my.ssa.gov if you haven't already, so you can see your actual projected benefits based on your work history. This will help you make a more informed decision.
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QuantumQuest
•You're right to question that number. I was looking at our combined household income from Social Security, not just mine. I checked my statement and my personal maximum at 70 would be closer to $2,850. Still significantly more than the spousal benefit, but not as high as I mistakenly wrote. Sorry for the confusion and thank you for the correction!
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Liam McGuire
Based on your corrected estimate of $2,850 at age 70 vs. $1,425 spousal benefit now, waiting still makes financial sense IF you can afford to. The break-even point would be around age 82-83. If you expect to live beyond that age (which statistics suggest is likely), waiting to claim your own benefit would give you more lifetime income. However, if immediate income is essential, taking reduced benefits now might be necessary despite the long-term financial penalty. Personal circumstances sometimes outweigh optimal claiming strategies. No shame in that - we all have to work with real-world constraints.
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QuantumQuest
•Thank you for running those numbers. We do have some modest savings we could tap into, and I might be able to find part-time work. Given the significant difference in benefit amounts, I think we need to seriously consider delaying my filing if at all possible. I appreciate everyone's insights!
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