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Can I collect my deceased husband's Social Security at 60 with pension income limits? How will it affect my own SS benefits?

I lost my husband last year and I'm trying to figure out my Social Security options as I approach 60. From what I've read, I can start collecting survivor benefits when I turn 60, but I'm confused about how my teacher's pension might affect this. I earn about $48,000 yearly from my pension, and I'm still working part-time bringing in around $15,000 annually. Will there be income limitations on collecting my husband's survivor benefits with these income sources? I'm also worried about how taking survivor benefits at 60 might impact my own Social Security when I qualify for it later (my own benefit would be higher at full retirement age). I've tried calling SSA three times but keep getting disconnected after 30+ minutes on hold. Any insights from someone who's navigated this situation would be really helpful!

Yara Elias

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Yes, you CAN collect survivor benefits at 60, but there are several factors to consider: 1. The earnings test will apply until you reach your Full Retirement Age (FRA). For 2025, if you're under FRA, SSA will deduct $1 for every $2 you earn above $23,520. Your combined income of $63,000 means you'll face a substantial reduction. 2. Your teacher's pension may trigger the Government Pension Offset (GPO) which can reduce survivor benefits by 2/3 of your pension amount if your teaching job didn't pay into Social Security. 3. Taking survivor benefits early (at 60 instead of your FRA) will permanently reduce them by about 28.5%. The good news: You can switch to your own higher retirement benefit later without penalty. This strategy (taking reduced survivors now, own benefit later) often works well despite the earnings test.

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Connor Byrne

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Thank you so much for this detailed response! I didn't realize the earnings limit was so low ($23,520). With my combined income, it sounds like I might not get any survivor benefits until I stop working or reach FRA? My teaching job did pay into Social Security (I'm in one of those states), so hopefully the GPO won't apply. Is there any way to calculate roughly how much I might get after the reductions?

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QuantumQuasar

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When my husband passed away I was 58 and tried to get his benefits at 60 too. BIG MISTAKE!!! The SSA took FOREVER to process my application and then told me I couldn't get anything because I made "too much money" from my job!!! They never explained this earnings limit before I applied!!! I wasted 4 months going back and forth with them and got NOTHING. The whole system is a SCAM designed to keep widows from getting what they deserve!!!

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Keisha Jackson

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I had a similar experience. the limits are ridiculous. after they take away most of your survivors benefits because of the earnings test what's even the point?? it's almost like they want us to quit our jobs just to get a small benefit. makes no sense to me.

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Paolo Moretti

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I went through this exact situation last year. Here's what you need to know based on my experience: 1. Yes, you can file for survivor benefits at 60, but with your income ($48K pension + $15K part-time), you'll hit the earnings limit hard. For every $2 you earn above the $23,520 limit, they'll deduct $1 from your benefits. 2. Since your teaching position paid into Social Security, the GPO won't apply to you (that's a relief!). 3. The smart strategy is exactly what you're thinking - claim survivors at 60 (or whenever you stop working if that makes more sense), then switch to your own higher benefit at your Full Retirement Age. 4. You can run calculations on the SSA website using their estimator tools, but with your income level, you might not see much benefit until you either reduce work hours or reach FRA when the earnings test disappears. Pro tip: When you apply, make absolutely sure they understand you're only claiming SURVIVOR benefits and want to claim your own retirement benefit later. They sometimes confuse this and it can cause major problems.

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Connor Byrne

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience! I'm relieved the GPO won't apply. Do you think it's even worth applying right when I turn 60 given my income situation? I'm not planning to reduce my work hours for at least another 2-3 years.

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Amina Diop

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my sister went thru this 2 yrs ago and found something interesting. the earnings limit only applies to WAGES not pension!! the ssa only counts the $15k part time job against the limit not your pension. At least thats what they told her. anybody else hear this??

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Yara Elias

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Your sister received correct information. The earnings test only applies to wages from work or net earnings from self-employment. Pension income, investment income, interest, annuities, capital gains, and other government benefits are NOT counted toward the earnings test limit. Only the $15,000 from part-time work would count against the $23,520 limit, which means the reduction would be much smaller than if the entire $63,000 counted.

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Oliver Weber

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After struggling to reach SSA for weeks about a similar survivor benefit question, I discovered Claimyr (claimyr.com). It got me connected to a real SSA agent in under 20 minutes instead of waiting on hold for hours or getting disconnected. They have a video showing how it works: https://youtu.be/Z-BRbJw3puU Once I finally spoke with a representative, they confirmed what others here are saying - only your work income ($15K) counts toward the earnings test, not your pension. The agent calculated my specific reduction and helped me decide if filing early made sense. Sometimes having your exact numbers from SSA makes the decision clearer than general advice.

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Connor Byrne

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Thank you for this tip! I've been so frustrated with the disconnections. I'll check out that service because I really need to speak with someone who can look at my specific situation and give me accurate numbers before I make any decisions.

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wait i'm confused... so do you get to collect both your pension AND your husbands social security at the same time? or do they reduce one because of the other? how does that work exactly?

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Paolo Moretti

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Yes, you can collect both a pension AND survivor benefits simultaneously. If your pension is from work where you PAID INTO Social Security (as the original poster mentioned), there's no pension offset. The only reduction comes from the earnings test on the $15K part-time work income, which would reduce benefits by approximately $0.50 for every dollar earned above the $23,520 threshold until FRA. Once you reach FRA, the earnings test goes away completely.

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Connor Byrne

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Thanks everyone for the helpful information! I'm relieved to learn that my pension doesn't count toward the earnings test - that changes everything. Based on your advice, it seems like I should: 1. Apply for survivor benefits right at 60 2. Understand I'll face some reduction due to my $15K part-time income 3. Later switch to my own retirement benefit at my FRA I'm going to try using that Claimyr service to get specific numbers from SSA before making my final decision. It's so helpful to hear from others who've been through this complicated process!

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Yara Elias

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That's exactly right. One more tip: keep careful records of your application and specifically request a SURVIVOR-ONLY application. Some SSA representatives mistakenly file for all benefits you're eligible for, which could prevent you from switching to your higher benefit later. Get the representative's name and direct number if possible, and follow up with the MySocialSecurity online account to verify everything is processed correctly.

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QuantumQuasar

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BE CAREFUL!! Even with the pension not counting, they'll still reduce your survivors benefit by 28.5% for taking it at 60 instead of waiting till your full retirement age!!! That's a PERMANENT reduction!!! The SSA doesn't make this clear until AFTER you apply!!!

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Paolo Moretti

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While you're correct about the reduction for claiming survivor benefits early, this is actually still a good strategy in many cases. The reduction only applies to the survivor benefit - it has NO effect on her own retirement benefit. By taking reduced survivor benefits at 60 and then switching to her own full benefit at FRA (which she mentioned would be higher), she can maximize lifetime benefits. The reduction is indeed permanent, but only on the survivor portion she receives between 60 and FRA.

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