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Atticus Domingo

Can I collect employer LTD disability and SSDI benefits at the same time? Worried about making ends meet

Just got my SSDI approval letter after 7 months of waiting, but I'm really stressed about the benefit amount. I'll only be getting $1,625/month starting in January 2025, which isn't nearly enough to cover my mortgage ($1,400) plus utilities and medications. I've been receiving Long-Term Disability through my former employer's insurance plan ($2,850/month) since my rheumatoid arthritis made it impossible to continue working as a dental hygienist last year. Does anyone know if I can keep receiving BOTH my employer's disability payments AND the SSDI at the same time? My LTD plan paperwork mentions something about 'offsets' but I don't really understand what that means. I'm only 52 and honestly can't survive on just the SSDI amount alone. Any advice from people who've dealt with this would be so appreciated!

Beth Ford

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Unfortunately, most employer LTD policies will offset (reduce) your payments once you start receiving SSDI. Check your policy, but typically they'll reduce your LTD payment by almost the full amount of your SSDI benefit. The insurance company likely even required you to apply for SSDI as part of your LTD approval. For example, if your LTD benefit is $2,850 and SSDI is $1,625, your new LTD payment would be around $1,225 (keeping your total income the same at $2,850). The good news is you'll still have the same total income, and the SSDI portion is typically tax-free, which might actually help your situation slightly.

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Oh no... I was afraid of that. You're right, they did require me to apply for SSDI. I guess I misunderstood and thought it would be additional income. I'm going to have to figure something out because even the $2,850 total is barely covering everything. Do you know if there's any way to appeal the SSDI amount? My earnings were pretty good before I had to stop working.

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same thing happened 2 me last year. my LTD got cut down the exact amount SSA started paying. BUT check your LTD policy carefully!! some policies only offset 80% of ssdi, not the whole thing. also, if you have dependents who get SSDI benefits those might not get offset depending on your policy. worth checking!

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Thank you! I didn't even think about the dependents part. My youngest is 17 so I think she might qualify for something? I need to look into this more. I'll dig out the full policy documents this weekend.

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The insurance companies are CROOKS!!! I went through the same exact thing and even though my policy said they could offset SSDI, they took MORE than they should have. I had to fight with them for 8 MONTHS to fix it. They claimed I owed them back money too for "overpayment" which was complete BS. DOCUMENT EVERYTHING and don't trust what they tell you on the phone!!!!!

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Joy Olmedo

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This isn't entirely accurate. While there can certainly be disputes about offset calculations, the offset itself is a standard feature of most LTD policies, not a deceptive practice. Insurance companies price their policies with the expectation that SSDI will eventually cover a portion of the benefit, which is why they require claimants to apply for Social Security benefits. Without the offset provision, someone could potentially receive more while disabled than when working. That said, @original poster should definitely review their policy carefully and keep detailed records of all communications with both SSA and their LTD carrier.

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Isaiah Cross

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does that actually work? i tried calling ssa like 5 times last month and kept getting hung up on after waiting forever!

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Kiara Greene

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My situation was different since I had a stroke but I remember being shocked at how little SSDI paid compared to what I was making before. Felt like hitting a brick wall financially.

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Beth Ford

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One important thing to understand is that while your total income will likely remain the same after SSDI kicks in (due to the LTD offset), there are some potential benefits to receiving SSDI: 1. A portion of your income is now likely tax-free (SSDI has favorable tax treatment compared to LTD benefits) 2. After 24 months on SSDI, you'll qualify for Medicare regardless of your age 3. SSDI benefits include annual COLA (Cost of Living Adjustments) 4. Some LTD policies only pay for 5-10 years, while SSDI continues until FRA (Full Retirement Age) Also, if you haven't already, you should look into whether you qualify for any other assistance programs based on your disability status and income level.

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Thank you, this is really helpful! I didn't know about the tax difference - that might actually help a bit. And I didn't realize Medicare would kick in after 24 months either. My employer health insurance continuation is super expensive. That would be a huge relief when it happens.

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Evelyn Kelly

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I just want to add that you should check if your LTD policy also offsets any dependent benefits your 17-year-old might receive. Some policies do and some don't. My kids got auxiliary benefits when I went on SSDI and my LTD company didn't count that against my offset, so it was extra money. Might be worth exploring!

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Oh, that would be amazing if that's the case with my policy too! Do you know how much your kids got as a percentage of your benefit? And did you have to file something separate for them or was it automatic?

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Evelyn Kelly

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Each dependent can get up to 50% of your SSDI amount, but there's something called the 'family maximum' that caps the total. You definitely need to file for them separately - it's not automatic. Call SSA (or use that service someone mentioned above to avoid the wait) and tell them you want to file for auxiliary benefits for your dependent. Bring their birth certificate and SS card to the appointment.

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Joy Olmedo

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It's also worth noting that if your SSDI award included retroactive benefits (back pay), your LTD carrier will likely request repayment for the months they paid you the full amount before your SSDI was approved. Don't spend that lump sum payment from SSA until you've confirmed whether you need to reimburse your LTD provider. This is a standard practice and should be outlined in your policy. Some carriers will offer payment plans if the amount is substantial. I've worked with clients who were surprised by this and it created significant financial hardship when they had already spent the back pay.

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Thank you for this warning. There is back pay involved - about 5 months worth. I'll make sure to set that aside until I sort things out with the LTD company. This is all so complicated!

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Kiara Greene

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My cousin got both payments for like 8 months before his LTD company figured it out and then they wanted ALL the money back at once! Huge mess. Don't spend any extra money until everything is sorted out.

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Has anyone mentioned yet that you should APPEAL your SSDI amount if you think it's too low??? You only have 60 DAYS from the date of your award letter to file a reconsideration if you think SSA calculated your benefit wrong!!! Check your earnings record on the mySocialSecurity site to make sure they included all your work years correctly!!!

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Beth Ford

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This is good advice, but just to clarify - you can appeal many aspects of an SSDI decision within 60 days, but the benefit amount itself is rarely changed through appeal unless there's a clear calculation error. The SSDI benefit formula is based on your lifetime earnings as recorded in the SSA system. However, it's absolutely worth checking your earnings record through mySocialSecurity to ensure all your work years are correctly documented. Missing years or incorrect earnings could indeed affect your benefit calculation.

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I went through almost the exact same situation two years ago when I was approved for SSDI after my lupus made it impossible to continue working as a nurse. The shock of realizing that LTD and SSDI don't stack was devastating - I had the same misconception that they would be additive income. Here's what I learned that might help you: First, definitely apply for auxiliary benefits for your 17-year-old daughter right away. Even if she only gets a few hundred dollars a month, every bit helps. Second, once you're on SSDI for 24 months, you'll qualify for Medicare which can significantly reduce your healthcare costs compared to COBRA. One thing that actually worked out better than expected was the tax situation - my LTD payments were fully taxable, but a good portion of my SSDI isn't (depends on your total household income). This ended up saving me about $200/month in taxes. Also, look into your state's disability assistance programs and local utility assistance. Many areas have programs specifically for people on SSDI that can help with mortgage assistance or utility bills. Your local Area Agency on Aging might have resources even though you're under 60 - they often handle disability services too. Hang in there - the financial adjustment is scary but you'll find ways to make it work.

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