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My neighbor said the tax thing depends on what state you live in too. Some states don't tax SS at all. I'm in Illinois and they don't touch my SS.
That's correct about state taxation. As of 2025, these states do NOT tax Social Security benefits: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Mississippi, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, Washington, Wisconsin, Wyoming While these states DO tax Social Security for some residents (often based on income thresholds): Colorado, Connecticut, Kansas, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, North Dakota, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, West Virginia This is separate from federal taxation, which applies everywhere.
One thing I'd add that hasn't been mentioned yet - if you're thinking about working part-time at your cousin's landscaping business, make sure you understand whether you'll be classified as an employee or independent contractor. This affects how taxes are handled and what forms you'll need to file. If you're an employee, your cousin will withhold taxes and provide a W-2. If you're an independent contractor, you'll need to handle quarterly estimated tax payments yourself and receive a 1099. The self-employment tax rate is about 15.3% on top of regular income tax, so it's important to plan for this if you're going the contractor route. Also, since landscaping is seasonal work in many areas, you might want to estimate your annual earnings to see if you'll cross those Social Security taxation thresholds mentioned earlier. Better to plan ahead than be surprised at tax time!
This is such an important point that I hadn't considered! I just assumed I'd be an employee, but you're right - landscaping work could easily be contractor work. That self-employment tax rate of 15.3% is a lot higher than I expected. I should definitely clarify this with my cousin before starting. Do you know if there are any rules about when someone has to be classified as an employee vs contractor? I don't want either of us to get in trouble with the IRS over this.
Congratulations on getting your first payment! That's such great news. For anyone else reading this thread who might be in a similar situation, this is a perfect example of how the SSA process typically works - it feels like forever when you're waiting, but most applications do process within that 6-8 week timeframe. And Zainab, that retroactive payment is going to be a nice chunk of change! January and February at $3,245 each - that's over $6,000 coming your way. Definitely a good reward for your patience. Thanks for updating us on the outcome!
That's fantastic news! So happy to hear everything worked out. I'm actually in a similar boat - just turned 70 last month and applied online but haven't heard anything yet. This thread has been incredibly helpful and reassuring. Knowing that 6-8 weeks is normal and seeing a real success story makes me feel so much better about waiting. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences!
I'm scheduled for my first redetermination call as a rep payee for my mom next week, and this entire thread has been absolutely invaluable! Thank you to everyone who shared their experiences - I went from panicking about the unknown to feeling actually prepared. I've created my cheat sheet with all the key numbers, organized bank statements into folders, and even started that daily balance tracking spreadsheet to avoid the $2,000 issue going forward. The tip about having water nearby and expecting to be put on hold multiple times is exactly the kind of practical advice I needed. One quick question - for those who mentioned they ask about burial funds, does this include small amounts set aside informally for final expenses, or are they only asking about formal burial insurance policies? My mom has about $800 in a separate savings account that we've been slowly building for eventual funeral costs, and I want to make sure I report this correctly if they ask. Again, thank you all for turning what felt like an intimidating bureaucratic process into something manageable. This community is amazing!
Great question about the burial funds! From what I understand, they're asking about any money specifically designated for burial/funeral expenses, whether it's formal insurance policies or informal savings like what you described. That $800 you've set aside would likely count as a resource toward the $2,000 limit unless it's in a properly designated burial fund account. I'd suggest being upfront about it during the call and asking the agent how it should be classified. Some states allow up to $1,500 in designated burial funds that don't count against the resource limit, but the rules can be specific about how these funds need to be held or documented. It's awesome that you've gotten so organized based on everyone's advice here! Having that cheat sheet and tracking system in place will make such a difference. You're going to do great on your call next week. The fact that you're thinking through these details ahead of time shows you're being a really responsible payee for your mom.
As someone who's been through this process as a rep payee for my disabled brother, I can definitely understand your anxiety! The key things they'll focus on are pretty straightforward: his living situation, how the SSI funds are being used, any changes in his condition or circumstances, and verifying he still needs a representative payee. Since he lives with you, be ready to explain how household expenses are shared - they'll want to understand his contribution to rent, utilities, groceries, etc. It doesn't need to be perfectly calculated to the penny, but having a general breakdown helps (like "he covers about 1/3 of household costs" or whatever is fair based on your situation). Have his bank statements ready (at least 3-6 months), know his current account balance, and be able to explain any larger purchases or deposits. The $2,000 resource limit is strictly enforced, so if he ever gets close to that amount, make sure you can explain how you manage it. They'll also ask about any work activity (even volunteer work), other income sources, medical appointments, and whether his disability status has changed. Since he has intellectual disabilities, they'll likely just confirm he still requires assistance managing his benefits. The whole call usually takes 20-45 minutes. Most agents are professional and understand they're working with families doing their best. Just be honest and organized - you've clearly got his best interests at heart!
This is such a helpful summary of what to expect! I really appreciate you breaking down the key areas they focus on. The timeline of 20-45 minutes gives me a good sense of how to plan my day around the call too. Your point about not needing penny-perfect calculations for household expenses is reassuring - I've been stressing about whether my informal approach to splitting costs would be acceptable, but it sounds like they're looking for reasonableness rather than accounting precision. I'm feeling much more confident about this whole process after reading everyone's experiences. Thank you for taking the time to share what you've learned from going through this with your brother!
This has been such an informative discussion! As someone who's been on Social Security for about 3 years now, I wanted to add a few practical points that might help with your planning: The Medicare Part B premium does get deducted automatically, but watch out for the annual adjustments - it goes up most years and they don't always give you much notice. I budget an extra $10-15/month cushion for those increases. For tax withholding, I started with 12% and it's been pretty accurate for my situation. The key is to run the numbers based on ALL your retirement income, not just Social Security. I use the IRS withholding calculator every January to double-check. One thing nobody mentioned - if you have any outstanding federal debt (old tax bills, defaulted student loans, etc.), they can garnish your Social Security benefits. This would show up as an additional deduction beyond the standard ones. Worth checking if you have any old obligations floating around. Also, keep copies of everything you submit to SSA. Their processing can be slow and sometimes forms get lost in the system. I learned this the hard way when my first W-4V took 4 months to process because the original got misplaced. Good luck with retirement planning! It's definitely more complex than most people expect, but once you get everything set up properly, it runs pretty smoothly.
Thank you for sharing such detailed real-world experience! The point about budgeting extra for Medicare Part B increases is really smart - I hadn't thought about those annual adjustments. Your mention of outstanding federal debt potentially causing garnishments is eye-opening too. I don't have any old obligations, but it's good to know that's something that could affect the take-home amount. The advice about keeping copies of everything submitted to SSA is gold - 4 months to process a W-4V because the original got lost sounds incredibly frustrating! I'm definitely going to submit everything with tracking and keep detailed records. One follow-up question: when you say you use the IRS withholding calculator every January, do you find you need to adjust your withholding percentage often, or has the 12% rate been pretty stable for your situation over the 3 years?
I'm glad I found this thread! As someone approaching the same decision point, I wanted to add a perspective about quarterly estimated tax payments since that was mentioned earlier but not fully explained. If you choose NOT to do voluntary withholding from your Social Security benefits, you'll likely need to make quarterly estimated tax payments to avoid penalties - especially if you have other retirement income. The quarterly payments are due January 15th, April 15th, June 15th, and September 15th each year. The IRS generally expects you to pay at least 90% of your current year's tax liability or 100% of last year's liability (whichever is smaller) through withholding and/or quarterly payments. If you don't, you could face underpayment penalties. Honestly, after researching both options, I'm leaning toward the voluntary withholding approach. Having to remember four payment dates per year and calculate the right amounts sounds more complicated than just having it automatically deducted. Plus, as others mentioned, it helps avoid that big tax bill surprise in April. One resource that's been helpful for me is the IRS Publication 554 which specifically covers tax information for older Americans, including Social Security benefits. It breaks down the taxation rules pretty clearly if anyone wants to dive deeper into the details.
This is really helpful context about quarterly payments! I've never had to deal with estimated taxes before, so understanding those due dates and the 90%/100% rule is valuable. You're absolutely right that the voluntary withholding seems much simpler - I'm definitely leaning that way too after reading everyone's experiences here. Thanks for mentioning IRS Publication 554! I hadn't heard of that resource before. I've been trying to piece together information from various sources, so having an official IRS publication that specifically addresses Social Security taxation will be really useful for my planning. One thing I'm curious about - for those who do choose quarterly payments, do you just send estimated payments based on your projected annual income, or do you need to file any special forms with the IRS to set up that payment schedule?
Liam Fitzgerald
As someone new to this community, I wanted to share a quick tip that helped me understand my Social Security tax situation better. After reading through all these excellent responses, I realized I should mention that you can also use the Social Security Administration's online benefit calculators to estimate your annual benefits and then plug those numbers into tax planning tools. This helped me understand exactly why the 10% withholding rate makes sense for someone with additional income like yours. Also, if you're tech-savvy, there are several free online Social Security tax calculators that can show you different scenarios - really helpful for planning purposes. The key thing I learned is that it's much better to slightly over-withhold and get a refund than to owe money at tax time, especially when you're on a fixed income. Welcome to the community!
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James Martinez
•Thank you for the warm welcome and for sharing those additional resources! I really appreciate you mentioning the online benefit calculators and tax planning tools - as someone who's pretty comfortable with technology, that sounds like exactly what I need to better understand my situation. You're absolutely right about it being better to over-withhold slightly rather than face a big tax bill. After reading through everyone's experiences and advice in this thread, I'm feeling much more confident about moving forward with the W-4V form for 10% withholding. It's incredible how supportive and knowledgeable this community is - I was honestly feeling pretty overwhelmed when I first posted my question, but now I have a clear action plan. Thanks again to everyone who took the time to share their expertise!
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Chloe Martin
As a new community member who's been following this discussion, I want to thank everyone for such detailed and helpful responses! I'm actually in a very similar situation to the original poster - just started receiving benefits and working part-time, but I'm in a different state so the tax implications might vary. This thread has been incredibly educational about the importance of proactive tax planning with Social Security benefits. The step-by-step guidance about checking the Benefit Verification Letter, understanding provisional income calculations, and the practical advice about W-4V withholding rates has been invaluable. It's clear that this community really looks out for newcomers and shares real-world experiences that you just can't find in official government publications. I'll definitely be bookmarking this discussion as a reference and will be sure to contribute my own experiences as I learn more about navigating the Social Security system!
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