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As someone who went through this exact situation last year, I can confirm you can absolutely get spousal benefits while your husband is on SSDI! I was also a teacher with a pension, and while the GPO did reduce my benefit significantly, I still received about $150/month after all the reductions. The key thing I learned is that even if the math suggests you'll get zero, you should still apply because: 1) SSA sometimes makes calculation errors in your favor 2) Your pension amount or your husband's SSDI amount might change 3) Having the application establishes your filing date for any future adjustments Also, don't forget that when your husband reaches his full retirement age, his SSDI automatically converts to regular retirement benefits at the same amount - no action needed on your part, and your spousal benefit continues unchanged. I'd strongly recommend applying online at ssa.gov rather than trying to call. The online application walks you through everything step by step, and you can upload documents directly. Much easier than the phone maze!

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Thank you so much for sharing your real experience! It's incredibly helpful to hear from someone who actually went through this process. Getting $150/month after GPO is better than I expected based on the calculations others have shared. Your point about applying even when the math suggests zero benefit makes a lot of sense - I hadn't thought about potential calculation errors or future changes in circumstances. And knowing that the SSDI automatically converts to retirement benefits without any action needed is reassuring. I'll definitely try the online application at ssa.gov first. The phone system sounds like a nightmare based on what others have said here. Did you find the online process straightforward? Were there any documents you needed that weren't obvious from the application? Thanks again for the practical advice from someone who's been there!

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I'm in a very similar situation - retired teacher with a pension and husband on SSDI. From what I've learned researching this, you're definitely eligible for spousal benefits while he remains on disability. The key things to know: 1) You can apply now at 62, but your benefit will be permanently reduced to about 32.5% of his full benefit amount instead of 50% 2) The Government Pension Offset will then reduce that amount by 2/3 of your teacher's pension 3) Many teachers end up with little to no spousal benefit after GPO, but it's still worth applying I'd recommend using the SSA website's benefit calculators to get a rough estimate before applying. Also consider that if you can work part-time to earn those 8 additional quarters for your own Social Security record, that might give you more options down the road, even with WEP reducing your own benefit. The online application process is definitely easier than trying to get through on the phone. Good luck!

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm new to this community and in almost the exact same boat - just retired from teaching after 25 years and trying to figure out my Social Security options with my husband on SSDI. The information about GPO potentially wiping out most or all of the spousal benefit is discouraging but good to know upfront. I'm curious about the suggestion to earn 8 more quarters for my own record - has anyone actually done this and can share whether it was worth the effort? I'm wondering if part-time substitute teaching would count toward those quarters or if it needs to be a job that pays into Social Security. Also, for those who have applied online at ssa.gov, approximately how long did it take to get a decision? I'm trying to plan my timeline. Thanks to everyone for sharing their experiences - this is so much more helpful than the confusing information I've been finding elsewhere!

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Wow, this has been such a comprehensive discussion! As someone who's been through a similar situation with my sister's case, I want to emphasize one crucial point that really made a difference for us: timing and preparation. Before your husband applies, I'd strongly recommend calling SSA (maybe using that Claimyr service Dylan mentioned to avoid the hold times) and asking specifically about their current policies for "deemed spouse" situations with long-term separations. Sometimes local offices have slightly different interpretations, so getting clarity upfront can save months of back-and-forth. Also, consider having a brief consultation with a disability attorney or benefits specialist - many offer free consultations and can help identify any potential issues before you submit the application. Your case sounds incredibly strong with the 10-year separation and all the documentation, but having professional guidance can make the difference between a smooth approval and months of appeals. Best of luck to both of you - you've got this!

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This is excellent advice about calling ahead to clarify policies! I hadn't thought about the fact that local offices might interpret things differently, but that makes total sense. Using that Claimyr service to avoid the dreaded hold times is definitely something we'll look into - sitting on hold for hours just to get basic information sounds awful. The consultation with a disability attorney is also a really smart suggestion, especially since many offer free consultations. Even though our case seems strong based on everything discussed here, having professional eyes review our situation beforehand could catch any potential issues we might have missed. I really appreciate how thorough and helpful everyone has been in this thread - you've all given us so much valuable information and made what seemed like an overwhelming situation feel much more manageable. Thank you for the encouragement and practical steps!

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Reading through all these responses has been incredibly helpful! I'm in a somewhat similar situation - my estranged husband and I have been separated for about 7 years now, though not quite as long as your 10 years. We also maintain completely separate lives, finances, addresses, etc. What really stands out to me from everyone's advice is how important the documentation is and how much the initial SSA representative you speak with can impact the process. One thing I'd add based on my research into this topic is that SSA Publication 05-11000 (Understanding SSI) actually has a section on "living apart" determinations that might be worth your husband reviewing before he applies. It outlines the specific factors they consider when determining if married couples are permanently separated for SSI purposes. Also, I've heard that submitting a detailed written statement explaining the circumstances and timeline of your separation along with all the documentation can be really helpful - basically telling your story in your own words rather than just letting the paperwork speak for itself. Your situation sounds very strong given the length of separation and all the evidence you have. Wishing your husband the best of luck with his application!

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Thank you so much for mentioning SSA Publication 05-11000! I had no idea there was an official publication that specifically covers "living apart" determinations - that sounds like exactly what we need to review before applying. Having the actual SSA guidelines on what factors they consider will definitely help us make sure we're addressing all their criteria properly. The suggestion about submitting a written statement telling our story is really smart too. You're right that just submitting paperwork might not fully convey the reality of our situation - a personal narrative explaining the timeline and circumstances of our 10-year separation could really help the reviewer understand that this isn't just a temporary arrangement but a permanent lifestyle choice. I'm going to look up that publication right away and help my husband draft a comprehensive statement to go with all our documentation. Thanks for adding such valuable specifics to what's already been an incredibly helpful discussion!

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The earnings test only applies if you're collecting benefits BEFORE your Full Retirement Age while still working. Once you reach your FRA, the earnings test no longer applies - you can earn any amount without it affecting your Social Security benefits. Since the original poster is planning to claim AFTER their FRA, the earnings test isn't relevant in their situation.

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As someone who just went through this decision process myself, I can confirm that waiting after your FRA is definitely beneficial! I delayed my benefits by 8 months past my FRA and the increased monthly payment has been worth it. One thing that helped me decide was using the Social Security Administration's online benefit calculator to see the exact dollar difference. Also, don't forget that if you're married, the delayed retirement credits can also increase the survivor benefit your spouse would receive. The peace of mind knowing I'm getting the maximum benefit I'm entitled to makes those few months of waiting feel like a smart investment!

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That's really encouraging to hear from someone who actually went through this! I'm curious - did you find the SSA online calculator easy to use? I've been on their website a few times but found it pretty confusing to navigate. And that's a great point about the survivor benefits - I hadn't even considered how the delayed credits might affect my spouse's potential benefits down the road. Thanks for sharing your real-world experience!

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I'm going through this exact nightmare right now! Been trying to get my retirement benefits processed for 7 weeks and it's been absolutely maddening. The Manila FBU phone system is completely broken - I must have called 25+ times during their "office hours" and never once reached a human being. This thread is incredibly valuable! I'm taking screenshots of all these proven strategies. The urgent email format from @Jamal Wilson with specific subject lines, @Ayla Kumar's congressional inquiry approach, @Mei Chen's ACS contact method, and @Michael Green's VPN tip for MySocialSecurity account creation are all game-changers I never would have considered. I'm particularly frustrated because I'm 67 and already past my FRA, so every month of delay feels like lost money. But reading that multiple people here eventually got full retroactive payments is reassuring. One additional resource I found that might help others: The Federal Benefits Unit actually has a separate fax number (632-301-2017) that some people have had better luck with than email. I'm planning to fax my application documents there while simultaneously trying all the other approaches everyone mentioned. Going to implement the full multi-channel strategy this week: urgent emails to FBU.Manila@ssa.gov, congressional inquiry through my former district, MySocialSecurity account setup with VPN, and even the respectful Facebook complaint approach if needed. It's absolutely ridiculous that we need a comprehensive battle plan just to access benefits we've paid into for decades! Thanks to everyone for sharing your hard-won knowledge. This thread should honestly be stickied as the official survival guide for American retirees in the Philippines dealing with SSA benefits. Will definitely update with results!

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@Alexis Renard Thank you for mentioning the fax number! I had no idea the FBU had a separate fax line - that s'another channel worth trying when all the usual methods fail. It s'amazing how this thread has evolved into the most comprehensive resource for dealing with Manila FBU issues. I m'also past my FRA and feeling that daily frustration of lost benefits, but seeing so many success stories here gives me hope. The multi-channel bombardment approach really seems to be the way to go - hitting them from every possible angle until something breaks through. I m'bookmarking this entire thread as my Manila FBU survival guide. It s'absolutely insane that we need this level of strategic planning just to access our own retirement benefits, but at least we re'all helping each other navigate this bureaucratic nightmare. Please keep us updated on which method finally works for you - every success story helps the rest of us still fighting this battle!

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I'm currently dealing with this exact same situation and it's beyond frustrating! Been trying to get my retirement benefits processed through Manila for about 6 weeks now. The phone system is completely useless - I've called during their supposed "office hours" at least 20 times and have never once gotten through to an actual person. This thread has been absolutely invaluable - I'm taking notes on every strategy mentioned here. The urgent email formatting tips, congressional inquiry approach, ACS contact method, VPN for MySocialSecurity account setup, and even the fax number @Alexis Renard mentioned are all brilliant solutions I never would have thought of on my own. I'm 66 and feel like I'm bleeding money every month this drags on, but reading about everyone's eventual success with full retroactive payments gives me hope. One thing I wanted to add that might help others: I found out that the SSA's main customer service line (1-800-772-1213) can sometimes help expedite overseas cases if you explain that you've been unable to reach the Manila FBU for weeks. They can't process your application directly, but they can sometimes put notes in your file or provide alternative contact methods. Planning to try the full multi-channel assault this week: urgent emails, congressional inquiry, MySocialSecurity account setup with VPN, fax to the FBU, and calls to the main SSA line. It's absolutely ridiculous that we need a military-style strategy just to access benefits we've earned over decades of work! This thread should honestly be pinned as the official Manila FBU survival guide. Thanks to everyone for sharing your hard-won knowledge - we're all helping each other survive this bureaucratic nightmare!

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@GalaxyGlider That's a great addition about calling the main SSA customer service line! I hadn't thought about them being able to put notes in your file or provide alternative contact methods when the Manila FBU is unresponsive. That's definitely worth adding to the multi-channel strategy. This thread really has become the ultimate survival guide for this nightmare situation. It's incredible how much collective wisdom has been shared here - from urgent email formats to congressional inquiries to VPN tricks for account setup. I'm also dealing with this mess (just started my application process last month at 65) and feel so much more prepared now after reading everyone's experiences. The fact that multiple people eventually succeeded with full retroactive pay gives me hope that persistence really does pay off. We really shouldn't need a PhD in bureaucratic warfare just to access our own retirement benefits, but at least we're all helping each other navigate this broken system. Good luck with your multi-channel approach - please keep us updated on what breaks through first!

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Great to hear you got your instructions! Just wanted to add for anyone else reading this thread - I went through the same process about 6 months ago and found the Pay.gov electronic option was really convenient. You get instant confirmation of payment and it processes faster than mailing a check. Also, make sure to save that reference number they gave you - you'll need it if you have any questions about your payment later. The whole process from repayment to final confirmation took about 6 weeks total for me. Sounds like you handled this perfectly by being patient and waiting for the official instructions rather than trying to send payment early.

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That's really helpful advice about Pay.gov! I was leaning toward mailing a certified check for the paper trail, but electronic payment with instant confirmation sounds much better. Did you have any issues setting up the payment on Pay.gov, or was it pretty straightforward? I'm definitely going to save that reference number - learned my lesson about keeping detailed records through this whole process!

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Pay.gov was actually really straightforward! You just need the reference number they provided and your Social Security number. The system walks you through each step and you can pay directly from your bank account or with a debit card. The confirmation email comes immediately and includes a receipt number you can use to track the payment. Much less stressful than worrying about whether a mailed check got lost or processed correctly. Good luck with your repayment!

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This is such a helpful thread! I'm actually considering withdrawing my application too since I just got offered a position that would significantly increase my future earning potential. Reading through everyone's experiences really helps me understand the timeline and process better. For those who have been through this - did you find that withdrawing and reapplying later at full retirement age was worth the hassle financially? I'm 62 and trying to decide if it makes sense to go through this process or just suspend my benefits instead. The job would likely last 3-4 years, and I'm trying to figure out the break-even point between paying back early benefits versus accepting the permanently reduced rate. Thanks for sharing all these details - it's so much more helpful than the vague information on the SSA website!

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Nina, this is a great question and one I wrestled with myself! The math can be pretty complex, but generally speaking, if you're confident about working for 3-4 years and your new income is substantial, withdrawal often makes financial sense. At 62, your current benefits are reduced by about 25-30% compared to full retirement age. If you withdraw now and reapply at 66-67, you'd get 100% of your benefit amount. Over a 20+ year retirement, that difference can be tens of thousands of dollars. The key factors to consider: 1) How much higher is your new salary (affects future benefit calculations), 2) Your health/life expectancy, and 3) Whether you can afford to live without SS benefits during those working years. I'd recommend using the SSA's retirement estimator online to run some scenarios, or even consulting with a financial planner who specializes in Social Security strategies. The withdrawal process itself isn't that bad once you get through the waiting period - it's really about whether the long-term financial benefits justify the short-term hassle and cash flow impact.

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