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So from what everyone's saying, since I'll keep working anyway and don't need the income right now, waiting until 70 makes the most sense - especially since it would give my wife a higher survivor benefit if needed. I appreciate all the input - will probably try to get an appointment with SSA to get my specific numbers before making the final decision.
That sounds like a good plan. One more consideration: tax implications. Since you'll continue earning business income, taking Social Security earlier might mean more of your SS benefits get taxed. Up to 85% of your benefits can be subject to income tax depending on your combined income. Waiting until you reduce your work hours might be more tax-efficient as well. Definitely worth discussing with both SSA and potentially a tax professional.
omg everyone's making this so complicated lol. just take it when u need it. all these calculations and projections... nobody knows when they're gonna die!
i think they just take your full retirement amount for 6 months and subtract what survivor benefits you already got for those 6 months. that's what happened with my uncle last year when he did this exact same thing.
YEP thats how they did it for my wife too. she got a smaller lump sum than she expected because of this but at least her monthly check is bigger now going forward!!!!!
I'm in a similar situation and meeting with an SSA representative next week. One thing I've been told is that you can request a benefit verification letter through your online account once you get back in. This will show your current survivor benefit amount which helps when making comparisons. Also worth noting - when you switch from survivor to retirement, your Medicare premium payment method might change. I was told to watch out for this to avoid any gaps in coverage.
Thank you! I didn't even think about the Medicare premium payment method changing. That's really good to know. Could you possibly update this thread after your meeting next week to share what you learn? I'd really appreciate hearing about your experience.
For those interested in current legislative efforts, there are two main bills that have been introduced to address WEP: The Social Security Fairness Act (which would fully repeal both WEP and GPO) and the Public Servants Protection and Fairness Act (which would modify WEP with a new formula). The fairness act has more cosponsors but the Protection act is seen as more fiscally feasible. Neither has passed yet, but you can contact your representatives to express support.
Thank you for this information! I'm going to look up both bills and contact my representatives. It sounds like the full repeal would be ideal, but I'd take the modified formula over nothing. Do you know if either bill has a decent chance of passing anytime soon?
ive heard that if you work after you start getting your pension like a parttime job that pays into ss it can help reduce the wep penalty over time is that true??
Yes, that's correct. Each additional year of substantial earnings under Social Security (which is $30,975 for 2025) can reduce your WEP penalty. If you reach 30 years of substantial earnings, the WEP doesn't apply at all. For people close to that threshold, working part-time after retirement can eventually eliminate the WEP reduction entirely.
Yes, the GPO calculation is the same for survivor benefits (2/3 of your government pension), but as mentioned, the survivor benefit amount is higher to begin with (potentially up to 100% of your husband's benefit if you claim at your FRA, versus 50% for spousal benefits). I'd recommend scheduling an appointment with SSA to discuss both your current options and future planning. They can provide benefit estimates specific to your situation.
Thank you all for the helpful information! I'll definitely apply and see what happens, but I won't count on receiving anything given the GPO reduction. I appreciate the tip about Claimyr for reaching SS - might try that instead of spending hours on hold. And I'll make sure to ask specifically about both spousal and potential future survivor benefits when I speak with them. This forum has been so much more helpful than trying to figure it out on my own!
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SSA IT specialist here. The current outage is due to scheduled maintenance that was supposed to complete by 6am EST but encountered some technical difficulties. Engineering teams are working to resolve the issues, and full service should be restored within the next 8-12 hours. Regarding your application timeline: The current processing time for retirement benefits is 75-90 days in most cases. Your online status may not update frequently during this period, but rest assured your application is still being processed even when the website is unavailable. If you have immediate concerns about your specific application, calling your local office with your confirmation number is your best option.
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CaptainAwesome
•Thank you for the inside information! That's very helpful to know. I'll be patient and check again tomorrow.
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Yuki Tanaka
•yeah right "scheduled" maintenance that just HAPPENS to crash the whole system... 🙄
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CaptainAwesome
UPDATE: The website is working again this morning! I was able to log in and check my application status. It's still showing as "processing" but at least I can see it's in the system. Thanks everyone for your help and commiseration!
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Dmitri Volkov
•Glad to hear it! The "processing" status is normal and will likely remain that way until your claim is fully adjudicated. Just remember that the online status updates can lag behind the actual processing by several days.
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Esmeralda Gómez
•Great! Now you just have to wait... and wait... and wait... 😂
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