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One important point that hasn't been mentioned: if your SSDI is approved, you'll likely receive back pay from your application date (or 5 months after your disability onset date, whichever is later). This could be a significant lump sum that would put you over the SSI resource limit again. You should ask your attorney about setting up a PASS (Plan to Achieve Self-Support) account or an ABLE account if you qualify, which are special accounts that don't count toward your SSI resource limit. This can help you manage any back pay without losing eligibility for other benefits. Also, make sure your dire need status is documented regularly. If your financial situation is worsening, have your attorney submit updated information to potentially expedite your case.
my neighbor got survivors benefits and worked part time and it reduced her check because she was under FRA. theres an earnings limit around $19000 i think? just something to know if you're still working
Just a tip - when you apply for survivor benefits, they'll ask about your marriage date since it had to be at least 9 months to qualify (with some exceptions). You said you're just short of 32 years, so that's WAY more than enough, but be prepared with the exact date. They're STICKLERS for documentation so bring extra copies of everything!
my dad just went through this whole thing and was so confused by all this FRA and earnings test stuff. he ended up waiting until his FRA to claim just to avoid the headache lol
Based on everything you've shared, you're approaching this correctly. Let me summarize to make sure everything is clear: 1. You're subject to the ANNUAL earnings test of $62,160 for 2025 (not the monthly test) 2. Only your earnings from January through November 2025 count toward this limit 3. As long as you stay under $62,160 through November, no benefits will be withheld 4. In December 2025 when you reach FRA, a separate higher limit applies ($16,560) 5. After you reach FRA in December, no earnings limits apply at all Keep track of your earnings, report your estimates to SSA, and you should be all set!
To directly answer your question: The earnings you're generating now will only increase your benefit if: 1. They're higher than your lowest indexed earnings year currently being used in your calculation (likely yes if replacing a zero) 2. The recalculation results in a benefit increase of at least $1 (they round down to the nearest dollar) It's important to understand that the actual increase might be small. For example, if you're earning $15,000 this year and it replaces a zero in your calculation, your benefit might increase by just $10-20 per month. This is because the earnings are averaged over 35 years, and the benefit formula is weighted. However, keep working as long as it's not a hardship for you. Those small increases can add up over time, especially if you live a long life. Plus, there's always the chance that Congress could modify or eliminate WEP in the future, which would make those earnings even more valuable.
Social Security automatically recalculates your benefit each year after your employer reports your earnings (typically after you file taxes). If your earnings increase your benefit, they'll make the adjustment and send you a notice. The increase would be effective January of the year following the work. However, there can sometimes be delays in this process. If you believe you should have received an increase based on recent earnings and haven't seen it after filing taxes for that year, it might be worth contacting SSA. Also, regarding your earlier question about trying to reach the substantial earnings threshold to reduce WEP: If you're able to work more without affecting your quality of life, it could be worthwhile. Each year of substantial earnings above 20 reduces your WEP penalty by 5%. So if you're currently at, say, 22 years of substantial earnings, getting to 25 would reduce your WEP penalty by an additional 15%.
Yuki Kobayashi
another thing to think about - how long have u been married? if its not 10 years yet and ur heading for divorce u might want to wait till u hit 10 years before finalizing anything
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Ethan Clark
•We've been married for 23 years, so thankfully that's not an issue. But that's a really good point for others in similar situations who might be close to that 10-year mark!
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Andre Rousseau
Here's a summary of your options: 1. File for your own retirement at 62 (approximately 30% reduction) 2. Wait until your husband is eligible (62) AND files for his benefits, then file for spousal benefits 3. Consider divorce if appropriate (after 10 years of marriage) which could allow you to claim on his record once he's 62 even if he hasn't filed 4. Wait until your Full Retirement Age to avoid reductions If you expect to receive spousal benefits eventually, consider whether the extra money from filing early on your own record will offset the permanent reduction to both benefits. This calculation depends on your life expectancy and financial needs. For specific estimates, you'll need to know: - Your Primary Insurance Amount (PIA) at Full Retirement Age - Your husband's approximate PIA - Your exact birth date to determine your FRA and reduction percentages
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Ethan Clark
•This is so helpful - thank you for laying out all my options clearly. I think I need to find out what my husband's PIA would be to make an informed decision. I'll try to get through to SSA for specific numbers. Based on everyone's advice, I'm leaning toward taking my own benefit now at 62 since I could really use the income, and then possibly switching to spousal later if it makes financial sense, even with the reduction.
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