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Thanks everyone for the explanations! I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who was confused by this random deposit. Just as an update - I called my local SSA office this morning (got lucky and got through), and they confirmed it was indeed the COLA backpay. They also said they're still processing these for many people, so don't worry if you haven't received yours yet.
Just wanted to add my experience - I'm a newcomer here but this post was super helpful! I got a similar deposit last week and had no idea what it was. After reading this I checked my benefit verification letter and sure enough, it was COLA backpay for 6 months. Mine went from $1,890 to $1,948 (about 3.1% like someone mentioned). Really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences - makes navigating all this SSA stuff less confusing when you're new to it all!
Welcome to the community! I'm also pretty new to dealing with Social Security and this whole thread has been a lifesaver. It's so reassuring to hear from others going through the same confusion with these surprise deposits. Your calculation sounds right on track with the 3.1% COLA increase everyone's been mentioning. Thanks for sharing your numbers too - it helps us newbies understand what to expect!
For anyone else reading this thread who has a birthday on the 1st of the month, here's what to remember when planning your Social Security filing strategy: 1. You're considered to reach any age on the last day of the previous month 2. This affects your Full Retirement Age date 3. This applies to early filing reductions and delayed retirement credits 4. The earnings test exemption also starts a month earlier 5. The online calculator doesn't automatically account for this rule Always double-check with SSA when planning your filing date, especially if you have a 1st-of-month birthday!
I'm really sorry you're dealing with this frustrating situation! As someone new to navigating Social Security, this thread has been incredibly eye-opening. It's shocking that such an important rule about 1st-of-month birthdays isn't prominently displayed in the online tools. The fact that multiple people here have experienced the same confusion shows this is a systemic communication problem with SSA. Thank you to everyone who explained the technical details - it's helping me understand what to watch out for when I eventually file. The system really should be more transparent about these kinds of rules that can significantly impact people's benefits!
This is a great question about how Difficulty of Care payments interact with Social Security early retirement benefits. From what I understand, Difficulty of Care payments are generally excluded from the Social Security earnings test because they're considered "in-kind support and maintenance" rather than wages for services. However, there are some important nuances here: 1. The fact that Michigan issues W-2s for these payments is interesting - typically DOC payments aren't subject to FICA taxes, which aligns with what you mentioned. 2. The 45-hour monthly limit you referenced might be related to specific state program guidelines rather than Social Security rules, but it's worth clarifying this directly with SSA. 3. Your small side business income of $2-3K annually is likely well under the 2024 earnings limit ($22,320 for those under full retirement age), so that shouldn't be an issue. I'd strongly recommend calling Social Security directly at 1-800-772-1213 to get official guidance on how your specific DOC arrangement will be treated. You might also want to contact your local Area Agency on Aging or Michigan's Department of Health and Human Services for clarification on the state-specific rules. It's always better to get these clarifications upfront rather than deal with potential overpayment issues later. Have you considered reaching out to SSA yet?
@Luca Romano I have called them - twice. They only thing they said was to report the wages if they are over $1950 per month. When I tried to explain that I was being paid under a medicaid waiver/difficulty of care they had no clue what I meant. The 45 hour per month limit I am refering to - is for Self Employment and substantial services. I will not be reporting this as self employment income, since they are issuing a W-2, but I am concerned that somehow they could say I am techincally self employed, since my son is listed as the employer.
@Troy and Beth Howard I completely understand your frustration with getting unclear guidance from SSA! You re right to'be concerned about the technicalities here. The fact that your son is listed as the employer on the "W-2" does create some confusion, but this is actually a common setup for Difficulty of Care payments through state Medicaid waiver programs. A few thoughts that might help: 1. Consider asking to speak with a supervisor or someone in the disability/waiver programs division when you call SSA - the general representatives may not be familiar with these specialized payment arrangements. 2. You might also try visiting your local SSA office in person with documentation of your Medicaid waiver program to get clearer guidance. 3. Since Michigan issues the W-2 without FICA withholding, this suggests they re treating it'as excluded income for Social Security purposes, which supports your position. 4. The 45-hour self-employment rule you mentioned typically applies to business ownership scenarios, not caregiver arrangements like yours where you re providing care'in your home. Have you considered reaching out to a disability advocate or elder law attorney who specializes in Medicaid waiver programs? They might be able to provide clarity on how these payments should be reported to SSA. Sometimes having professional documentation of the payment structure can help when dealing with SSA representatives.
Just wanted to add one more thing that might be helpful - when you do apply online in October, make sure you have a stable internet connection and set aside a good chunk of time (maybe 1-2 hours) to complete the application in one sitting. The system can time out if you're away too long, and while you can save your progress, it's easier to just power through it all at once. Also, double-check that your direct deposit information is correct! A friend of mine had a typo in her account number and it delayed her first payment by almost a month while they sorted it out. The bank routing number and account number have to be exactly right. You sound very well-prepared now - I'm sure everything will go smoothly for you! 🙂
That's such practical advice about the internet connection and timing out! I hadn't thought about that. I'll make sure to clear my schedule and do it when I won't be interrupted. The direct deposit tip is really important too - I can see how one wrong digit could cause a major headache. Thanks for adding these details that could save me from some frustrating mistakes!
Another thing to consider - if you have any pension income or other retirement accounts you're planning to tap into, make sure you coordinate the timing with your Social Security start date. I made the mistake of not thinking through how my 401k withdrawals would affect my tax situation when combined with Social Security benefits. Also, since you mentioned other income ending in January, you might want to consider whether starting benefits in January instead of February could actually work better for your cash flow, even if it's not ideal timing. Sometimes an extra month of benefits early in the year can help with January expenses when other income stops. Just a thought to run through your financial planning one more time! The online application really is straightforward once you have everything ready. I was surprised how user-friendly it was compared to what I expected from a government website.
That's a really good point about coordinating with other retirement income! I hadn't fully considered the tax implications of timing everything together. You're right that I should probably run the numbers one more time - maybe January benefits would actually be better for cash flow even if February seemed cleaner in my original planning. It's reassuring to hear the online application is user-friendly. I've been a bit nervous about navigating a government website, but it sounds like they've made it pretty straightforward. Thanks for the practical perspective on considering the bigger financial picture!
Selena Bautista
Based on what you've shared, your friend needs to take three specific actions: 1. Report his blindness to SSA immediately - this is considered a change in medical condition 2. Request an evaluation for SSDI benefits based on his work history as a janitor for 20+ years 3. Ask specifically about concurrent benefits (receiving both SSI and SSDI) which may apply in his case Arizona does not offer a state supplement to SSI (unlike California mentioned above), so maximizing his federal benefits is especially important. When he speaks with SSA, he should specifically ask about the Blind Work Expense (BWE) exclusions if he has any income, and request information about any additional programs for which his blindness might qualify him. The difference between the standard SSI payment ($943/month) and potential SSDI benefits based on his work history could be substantial, potentially doubling his monthly income if he qualifies for SSDI at a decent rate.
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Natalia Stone
•Thank you so much for this clear action plan! I'm going to help him follow these exact steps. It would be life-changing if his benefits could increase significantly. I really appreciate everyone's helpful advice!
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Isabella Ferreira
Just wanted to add that when your friend contacts SSA, he should bring ALL his medical documentation about his macular degeneration and legal blindness diagnosis. The SSA has very specific criteria for legal blindness (20/200 vision or worse in the better eye, or visual field of 20 degrees or less), so having the official documentation from his eye doctor will be crucial. Also, since he worked as a janitor for 20+ years, there's a good chance he has enough work credits for SSDI. SSDI benefits are calculated based on his lifetime earnings, so even modest-paying jobs can result in meaningful benefits if he worked consistently. The combination of SSDI plus potentially a small SSI supplement could definitely get him closer to that $1,900 range you mentioned. One more tip - if he has trouble getting through to SSA by phone, he can also submit a written report of his medical condition change by mailing it to his local field office. Sometimes that's actually faster than trying to get through on the phone!
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